有谁知道为啥美元反弹商品下跌

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有谁知道为啥美元反弹商品下跌

Post by 豪情 » 2008-08-15 11:05

难道和俄格打仗有关系么?
还是操作的都度假快活去了?

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Post by tiffany » 2008-08-15 11:17

欧洲经济紧缩?今天早晨听了一耳朵。
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Post by Jun » 2008-08-15 11:21

因为油价跌了?因为石油市场一片愁云?
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-08-15 11:22

为什么油价跌了? 要选举了操纵油价?

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Post by Jun » 2008-08-15 11:27

The bubble is finally bursting?
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Post by gigi » 2008-08-15 11:42

According to what I heard from NPR¡¯s Market Place Morning Report a few days ago, because of the high gas price, the Americans have reduced their gas consumption by 2% this summer. Because America is the largest oil market in the world, this change is big enough to tip the balance and hence the drop in oil price.

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Post by Jun » 2008-08-15 11:56

还有说法是,全球进入recession,生产力下降,所以油价不可能维持下去了。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-08-15 11:59

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Post by tiffany » 2008-08-15 13:07

或者全球经济终于给美国拖下水了?
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Post by qinger » 2008-08-15 16:53

现在全球经济都不景气, 我现在在台湾,出租司机说现在坐计程车的人少了很多。
题外话,到国外旅行才意识到用CDMA的手机是多么愚蠢的一件事, 根本没法在local 用, 除非愿意付吓死人的roaming fee。我多么应该选GSM的phone啊。
现在偶是胡军的扇子。

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Post by sikong » 2008-08-15 16:57

还是和大选有关吧,油价是共和党能动得着的东西。
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Post by 日朗 » 2008-08-15 18:15

油价下降有个说法是美国还有中国的预期消费需求下降,所以油价就降了。美元汇率上升,说是中国和欧元区的经济下滑所以都贬值了。
还有个说法是美国操纵油价是针对俄罗斯的。

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Post by Jun » 2008-08-15 19:31

油价下降在先,俄国进攻Georgia 在后。
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Post by K » 2008-08-17 8:45

美元这轮上涨,确切的说是欧洲货币-欧元,英镑和瑞士法郎在走弱. 在欧洲三大央行两周前宣布次贷危机波及到欧洲的后果比预想的严重,而且宣布不加息后,欧洲三大货币都走低,并且英镑对美元连续12个交易日收低,引发了hot money和投机商从商品期货转到stocks和其他投资, 从而带出整个商品期货市场LIFFE, NYBOT和CBOT全线下跌.同时,美国出来的数据显示,石油的需求下降和库存上升,油价也在下跌,也带动其他商品的下跌.
CBOT中,豆类商品暴跌,有很多原因,其中,中国需求减少,同时美国大豆又是大丰收.中国需求减少主要是前期现货采购数量很多,其实已经超买了,现在国内crushing margin是negative,推迟了一些合同的发货,引发了国际市场的恐惧.

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Post by 狸狸 » 2008-08-17 9:48

这个新的K同学不是小K的马甲吧 :party005:
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Post by Knowing » 2008-08-17 10:08

不是,我没事批马甲干吗。。人家显然是专业的。。。
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-08-17 12:53

K同学的回答真强. :admir001: 谢谢解惑.

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Post by 海阔天空 » 2008-08-18 11:24

K wrote:欧洲三大货币都走低,并且英镑对美元连续12个交易日收低,引发了hot money和投机商从商品期货转到stocks和其他投资.
我翻来覆去看了8遍,基本都懂了(就是我自我感觉可以说得通),就这个因果关系不明白 :roll:
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Post by K » 2008-08-19 7:53

In general, if US dollar is strong, hot money goes into stocks and sell commodities and vice versa. So when two week ago, euro+sterling+other european currencies were soften, US dollar became strong and attracted hot money sold commodities and bot stocks.

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Post by tiffany » 2008-08-19 8:15

so, what is hot money? I am quite ignorant about these things.
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Post by 海阔天空 » 2008-08-19 8:22

可是为什么美元强劲,热钱就进股市和非期货市场呢?这个股市是特指美国的股市还是欧洲的股市,还是这年头股市是全球的?

谢谢答疑。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-08-19 9:24

因为商品(一般认为)是保值的而股票不是。美元弱的时候就通货膨胀,通货膨胀的结果是商品涨价,所以囤货买金子都是对抗弱美元的办法。几千万几亿的资金不能都买了金子放家里,所以就买期货,不用屯嘛。
股票没这个保值作用。如果热钱都去了商品期货市场,股票市场里资金少了,就弱。反之,钱流回来了,就强。
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Post by camellia » 2008-08-19 9:28

热钱=国际闲散资金?那么多替有钱人管钱的人成天琢磨着用手上的赚更多的。

美元强劲,货品未来价格看跌,期货市场跌,所以钱进股市和非期货。

以上是阅读理解的得来的。

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Post by 海阔天空 » 2008-08-19 9:42

谢谢knowing和camellia。

想到我平头老百姓就这样被国际热钱们推得身不由己的跟着逛荡。。。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-08-19 9:46

切,我早就说过了,资本主义社会里是有钱人当家作主。
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Post by K » 2008-08-19 10:00

i hv wrote a reply but i lost everything :( but you hv explains already :)

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Post by Knowing » 2008-08-19 10:15

咦,你那么内行多写点嘛。
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Post by K » 2008-08-19 10:25

你的解释言简意赅,比我

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Post by Jun » 2008-08-19 10:36

I'm not convinced that USD will stay strong any time soon. I only hope pound sterling falls harder, so that I can visit UK next year.
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Post by Knowing » 2008-08-19 10:48

我觉得还是你解释的清楚专业。多说点多说点。我要学习。。
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Post by tiffany » 2008-08-19 10:57

同意,看专家的解释就感觉特赏心悦目
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Post by 海阔天空 » 2008-08-19 11:22

我在看完《热钱和股市的关系for dummies》后觉得自己可以更进一步看专业的说明了。
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