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温网今年(完)
Posted: 2005-07-03 14:11
by icefire
1 pierce vs venus
pierce是一名有法国因子的老将,曾经夺得过法网和澳网,所以有相当实力,不属于马约里那样的one slam wonder。由于伤病等因素,近年不是很活跃。但她的状态在今年法网已然回升,一举杀入决赛,最后完败于henen拍下。这次遇上venus,一开始没有很放开,第一盘惨败。可是第二盘复苏,并有机会拿下。惜乎venus这次的求胜欲望和竞技状态好得惊人--一说因为她不用和妹妹碰上,心上负担骤减,功力迅猛回升:比如60和62将淘汰妹妹的同胞击败--所以pierce最终没有把握机会。她素有“贵妇”称号,不过现在体形已经恢复苗条,她的努力也有目共睹。
2 venus vs sharapova
谁是安娜?不记得了罢?:whistling: 安娜的渐渐淡出,除了她本身不争气,弄错自己的主次身份外,娇媚、高分贝、好成绩的莎娃功不可没。我还记得去年温网半决赛后,一个和我打球的俄罗斯小子欢快地说,我真高兴莎娃进了决赛,但恐怕他那是也没敢多想莎娃会在决赛中2:0干净利落地将小威斩于马下。我很庆幸决赛后,我和他没有机会很快碰面,要不岂不要看他得意忘形的嘴脸:-D 。并且在年末的总冠军决赛上,这一幕又重演。
这次莎娃和大威在本决赛相遇,双方在盛赞对方的同时,也毫不掩饰自己晋级的勃勃雄心。到得比赛当日,还是大威发挥的神乎其技,将莎娃打的没话说。大威又一次证明,在草地上她不怕任何人,包括自己的小妹(我一直认为她屡次输给小威,心理因素占主)。比较遭罪的是我的耳朵,她们两人的嘶喊声实在太过惊人。
我的观后感:莎娃诚然很优秀,但要说她已经稳稳挤入超一流选手的行列,未免为时过早。从她去年登顶后,对于她实力的质疑从未间断。我总直觉她相对于那些顶尖好说来说,还差那么半口气:是实力?是意志?好象都不是。也许是经验罢。毕竟小姑娘才刚成年,要求太高未免过了。有人要说了,18岁出成绩很不算早啊,14,56岁的拿大满贯的也大有人在啊。可是列位看官,少年得志,往往后力不继啊,身体还没能长到能抵抗那样高强度的训练比赛,无数悲惨的事实已经证明了。所以从这点上,我对那个规定在多少岁以前参赛不能超过多少的,还是持赞同意见的。
3 venus vs davenport
davenport很不能跑。她18岁时就不能跑。她从来就没能象其他选手一样满场飞过。所以在决赛看到她对一些应该能救的球无能为力,也就没什么说法。可是她对胜利渴望的欠缺,关键时候意识品质的疲软,就不得不让人哀叹了。我是多么希望她能赢啊,离她上一次拿大满贯已经5年了,而她也已经29岁了,机会不是从来没有这么好过,但我不得不悲观地认为,机会以后不会再有这么好了。一度她都拿到了赛点,但大威的自信顽强,和她的迟疑优柔,形成了太过强烈的对比。她完完全全地choked。等到她申请疗伤时,我就知道大势已去。
在今年年初的澳网决赛,davenport对小威也是先赢一盘,然后开始输。她这个人的脾性我很喜欢,不张扬,不造作。可是,赛场上,有时还是需要一些霸气的。
4 federror vs roddick
男单决赛,其实开赛前,地球人就已预测到结果。单看在赛会开始前,谁列第二号种子时的风波,结局已露端倪。意外排2的roddick满心侥幸欢喜,3号种子hewitt的老乡,网坛前辈则替hewitt大为叫屈。谁都知道,避开了federer,晋级决赛的可能性就会大为提高。所以,大家今年到温网来,其实是来争亚军的。
几年温网期间,英国的一个报纸上,一个自身专栏作者写了一篇文章,驳斥那些说看federer比赛,因为结果没有悬念,所以无味的看法。他说,对于我来说,看federer怎样精妙地打球是一件在惬意不过的事情,怎么会有人觉得无聊!
Posted: 2005-07-04 9:23
by Jun
I didn't watch any of the women's games. Men's games are quite interesting. Federer's dominance is obvious, although I'm not sure whether Roddick's lack of resistance in the final had more to do with Federer's level of play or Roddick's own fatigue from several very close matches early on (at least 2 5-setters and 3 tie-breaks in the semi final with Johanssen). Of course, even Roddick in top condition would probably lose to Federer, but perhaps the final would be closer. Also I wonder if Johanssen would have given Federer a little more trouble, but the answer is probably not. For a while, especially after French Open, I had wondered about Federer's first serves. When he's not playing well, it is his first serves and forehand hitting that start to have problems. In the final, however, his serves were impeccable, while Roddick's serves were clearly affected by his physical condition. I have to conclude that Federer was determined to take his game up a notch for Wimbledon final, because as cool as he looked on the surface, he was very very hungry for the title.
Regardless, the joy of watching Federer play lies in the diversity of his skills, the perfection of his execution, and the thoughtful strategies he applies to every match, every game, and every opponent. Most beautiful is his backhand -- the variety of the speed, spins, placement, tempo, power (or lack of) is mind-boggling and simply wicked. It is such a treat to watch him toying with his opponent, needles him, teases him, throws him off, deceives him, overwhelms him. It is the complex but constant thinking behind the play that elevates his game so much higher above everyone else.
The danger for him, I suspect, is boredom, especially when his physical condition on a particular day cannot catch up to his thinking, which leads to frustration and increased errors. However, his overall dominance and improved mental steadiness in the past few years have helped him in the pursuit of winning. To fans of well-rounded tennis, Federer's winning is almost secondary, and the only reason I like to watch him win is to see a more smooth flow and flourish of his many many skills and talent on the court.
I had incorrectly written Hewitt off in the last couple of years. I just thought his style and skills were not enough for the modern power game. His serves and power were at a clear disadvantage to face the newer players like Roddick and Coria and Nadal. However, he's proven me wrong. He has really improved his serves, just like Roddick has made real progress in his game at the net. Although Hewitt is hardly among the best servers in the world, and Roddick's volleys are still quite immature, I'm glad to see them working to make their games more well-rounded rather than continue to exaggerate their original specialties. Perhaps this approach to well-roundedness is in fact inspired by Federer. All the better for the sport.
Posted: 2005-07-04 12:04
by icefire
麦肯罗说,如果换个边儿,federer周六补赛,而roddick休养待赛,那么决赛会更均衡一点。现实的情况,几乎是还没开赛,地球人就知道roddick没戏了。
federer带动、提升了他们整整一代人的水平。
Posted: 2005-07-05 12:47
by tiffany
哎,我特别受不了她们一边打球一边狂喊。都mute掉了才看。

Posted: 2005-07-05 12:58
by silkworm
我听见解说夸Federer是最安静的选手。
Posted: 2005-07-05 13:11
by 豪情
肯定有人爱听.

Posted: 2005-07-05 13:31
by icefire
就我个人来说,如果站在网对面的人会发出那样恐怖的吼声,恐怕我会失控。:let_me_die: 很多著名选手抱怨过。这一次连裁判都批评。
不过莎娃的辩解是,她击球时全神贯注,根本没注意道自己嗓子在干吗。才怪!
Federer,一个字,酷。

星期天看完比赛,随即和人打球,几个回合过后,他说,你是在学federer吗?

Posted: 2005-07-05 13:38
by 豪情
我指的是观众.

Posted: 2005-07-07 8:42
by Jun
T1T.
Posted: 2005-07-08 6:21
by Jun
Davenport 拿过大满贯?噢,你是说满贯赛中的一站。
她是不能跑,个子太高了, 不灵活。其实Sampras也非常不能跑。不能跑的人的补偿手段就是击球的质量特别高,打得对手没有用回球逼他们跑的余地。
Posted: 2005-07-08 7:37
by map
那时候就觉得Sampras的技术没有缺陷,注意力始终十分集中。现在温网看不到贝克尔飞身救球的演出了,以前很喜欢他在草地上打滚的娱乐性。
Posted: 2005-07-08 8:57
by Jun
Sampras的打法其实就那么三板斧:发球,正手,上网。他的底线,反手,接球都挺烂的。不过那三板斧太强了,别人拿他没办法。他和Agassi 都是典型的先发制人的战术,攻强于守。
Federer则不同了,他简直没有不强的方面,能攻能守 (象Michael Jordan)。今年在Wimbledon他没怎么上网,但是一上网对手就惨了。在movement上面他可以说是空前绝后的了。我就一直纳闷他怎么能接住这么多难接的球,就算是质量很高的来球,他也能好整以暇地反攻。Hewitt那是能跑,拼了命地满场跑。Federer却好象会读心术一样,对方球拍还没碰球呢,他就知道他要往哪边打,脚下早过去等着了,直觉极强,绝对不是猜的。这本事只能天生不能后学,要天性十分敏锐非常会观察别人才行。我行我素、不理对方、自己一条道走到底是绝大多数人,在普通情形下也能靠一把蛮力成功,如果生在有Federer的时代,就只好认倒霉了。
Posted: 2005-07-08 11:40
by icefire
federer恐怖的脚法并非天生。他的教练说,federer成绩越好,他改进自己的欲望越强烈。他制定了横贯全年的,系统的训练机制,连他回家调整的阶段也没放过。他浑身的肌肉都大有提高,他教练说,现在,他想不出federer周身上下,有比他腿部肌肉更强悍的地方。federer证明了那句老话:天才是百分1加百分99的汗水。
sampres的底线,妈妈米亚,那可是他的强项之一啊。早年sampras根本不上网,单靠底线抽击就能击溃对手。年岁大了,才变成发球上网的,是体力改变的关系。他正手的防守反击,迄今为止,还是NO 1, federer还是差他那么一点点。经常看到的是,对手(典型是agassi)将之调到反手,然后一个大角度正手抽击,搁别人就是一个致胜球,而samprass则是迅捷赶到,一个正手,你就等着听agassi回球时的惨叫罢,绝不夸张,惨叫
说道federer的能跑,解说在早先说:我希望在星期天(决赛)能终于看到他滴汗,可惜她还是失望了。

Posted: 2005-07-08 14:05
by map
对呀对呀,那时候我时常恨恨地想Samprass这小子怎么就不抽出界呢!

好多比赛他都因连续作战伤病不减状态一般,可还是发挥稳定,耐心而主动地与对手周旋,最后波澜不惊地克敌制胜。
现在选手要说“百花齐放”不如90年代中期,更不如70年代末80年代初,网球比赛越来越不好看啦。
Posted: 2005-07-08 14:30
by Jun
70年代末80年代初?
I wasn't around to watch any of the players or matches back then. Can't comment intelligently about it. The game is much different now because of the technology in rackets. Apples and oranges.
Posted: 2005-07-08 15:18
by map
以前卫视体育台经常放大满贯70、80年代的比赛回顾,很精彩。
我一直比较偏爱老旧的东西和人。比如韩国的羽毛球双打选手吉永雅始终是我最喜欢的女选手,她退役将近10年了。
Posted: 2005-07-08 15:30
by icefire
map说的不错,说“百花齐放”那肯定是今不如昔。在federer崛起前一阵子,网坛上倒也是一派混战,但那是大家水平都不怎么样:老一代下滑、新一代未成;而不象原先,那可真是强强对抗,缤纷夺目。
Posted: 2005-07-08 17:14
by map
以前卫视体育台的那些退役选手解说员总爱分析比尔博格、麦肯罗、博格还有伦德尔等人的技术特点以及革新,说到90年代选手话就比较少,到了00前后几乎没什么有关技术流派的讲解,除了比赛成绩和花边新闻便无话可说,越看越闷。
Posted: 2005-07-08 18:55
by icefire
俱往矣,数风流人物,还看前朝。
Posted: 2005-07-11 3:19
by look
是啊,休伊特肯定比发球机器打得好看,何况在去年澳网上表现那么顽强,令人心折。明明知道是费德勒的天下,就是希望挑战者更强。萨芬、休伊特、罗迪克、莫亚,渐渐都落在了后面,也许明年小nadal表现会好呢。
Posted: 2005-07-11 18:01
by PRINGLES
觉得今年wimbledon女子比男子好看,跟在RG相反,男子觉得最好看是8强federer打gonzalez,我承认我偏心,gonzalez着火时是娱乐性十足的,可惜此人稳定性极差.semi roddick打t johansson那场也好看,想不到t johansson这把年纪还可以打得这么好,修正了当年很多人对他那个澳洲公开赛冠军的质疑。
女子sharapova vs venus那场的第一节非常好看,power vs power,记得mary carillo讲解时都忍不住说象dog fight,惨烈却极具娱乐性,当然也因为我是喜欢听球员grunting的观众。
Posted: 2005-07-11 20:33
by icefire
gonzalez是公认的发力大炮型,很有看头
johansson那个澳洲公开赛冠军是生生从萨芬手里抢来。萨芬在(准?)半决赛中遭遇哈斯,落后无力,天降大雨,比赛延迟,萨芬遂重整旗鼓,一举翻身。大家于是都看好他生日夺冠,早早结束one slam wonder的尴尬身份。嘿嘿,决赛中johansson发挥得比他好多了。johansson在网球选手中个子不高,发球却极有威力。他颇有绅士贵族风度,在当今网坛已不多见。
Posted: 2005-07-11 22:09
by PRINGLES
没错gonzalez发球很好,他的正手在发挥好时基本上是现今最好的了,但不认为他是发力大炮型,始终南美出身,技术和footing还是过硬的,他打红土也很不错啊,他在RG打federer那场就很好看的(他俩今年在slam里老碰在一起),他自己说了他今年在wimbledon的战术就是发球拼一点,结果在打j johansson那场ace比johansson还多

Posted: 2005-07-11 22:17
by icefire
我说他发力大炮型,不是指他发球,正是说他正手

不过现在说到大炮,直接联想就是发球,是我的疏忽啦
我看他的比赛不多,听说反手直线也是一绝

看看,在当今男网立足多不容易!我是不用想了

Posted: 2005-07-11 22:18
by PRINGLES
t johansson是比较惨啦,谁叫他后来在slam里的表现这么差,搞得大家一提起现役one slam wonder就想到他

,其实他今年表现还是很好的,ao第四圈,wimbledon semi
Posted: 2005-07-11 22:20
by PRINGLES
icefire wrote:
我看他的比赛不多,听说反手直线也是一绝
他打j johansson那场就很多running back hand down the line的表演,很好看

Posted: 2005-07-11 23:22
by icefire
t johansson没的办法啊,伤病缠身,把病养家里了。
Posted: 2005-07-13 6:00
by Jun
完了么?
Posted: 2005-07-13 18:07
by PRINGLES
半决赛时我拼命为t johansson加油,可惜还是输了,其实如果johansson赢了,说不定决赛会紧凑点。刻薄点说,基本上andy roddick+上网=对手的passing shot clinic,上年master cup对hewitt是,这次对federer也是。
Posted: 2005-07-13 21:15
by icefire
roddick vs. hewitt, 基本上就是送对方passing shots的分。对federer则是另一个理念,federer对付roddick的手段相比hewitt而言,要炫目的多。不过异曲同工,结局总是roddick败北
不过这点上我倒是很佩服roddick, 尽管我颇为不欣赏他。起码他在努力改进自己的薄弱环节,不怕暂时的失利。而且他的网前技术的进步也是有目共睹的。同理还有safin(不过safin我是很欣赏的

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还没完,等我喘口气先

昨晚暴热,我今天一大早又因为有重大事儿,所以反常地打算早起早睡,结果生物钟不服,在床上烙滚烫的饼儿,总管睡了不到3个小时,:speechless001: 以为今天精神状态会极差,结果倒还行,刚才还在一整天几乎没进食的情况下和人打球。可见人的潜力是无穷的。
我真罗嗦:oops:
Posted: 2005-07-14 6:00
by Jun
Safin is handsomer.

Re: 温网今年(4)
Posted: 2005-07-14 16:41
by PRINGLES
icefire wrote:roddick在稳稳地连续第三年输给federer后,在被BBC主持问及你一定不大爽罢(mood), 他道,I'm more in the mood for a beer。呵呵。近来roddick的幽默
我记得他赛后有句关于被pass的经典搞笑
I tried, you know, going to his forehand and coming in. He passed me. I tried to go to his backhand and coming in. He passed me. Tried staying back. He figured out a way to pass me, even though I was at the baseline.
Posted: 2005-07-15 5:50
by Jun
Federer 一场里打出来的又岂止是“几个好球”,他的比赛好看,在于千变万化的技术和战略。如果他的正手回球有十个打法,反手就有五十个(打个比方)。在速度,落点,旋转,角度等等,每一球跟每一球都不同,搞得对手不能站稳脚跟,其实是斗脑子的打法。输球的时候,要么是失误太多,尤其是一发率低;要么是对方能接得住他的回球,看本事看状态了。
Roddick一向有点咋咋乎乎的,喜欢搞点自我表现,showmanship。在场上为了赢而打点擦边球,他不是第一个也不是最后一个。麦肯罗呢?他那么喜欢跟人吵,在场上的花样那么多,把对方搞得火冒三丈,心烦意乱,对他赢球不是没有贡献吧?而且我怀疑他们这么喜欢搞,未必不是替自己减少压力的手段。 Monica Selles刚出来的时候,对手总是抱怨她的哇哇大叫扰乱心神,现在大家都叫了。Justine Henin-Hardenne 的那个,她虽然口碑不好,但是并不违反规则,而对方容许自己被一个误判影响到整场比赛,那是对方自己的责任。
我对体育精神没有异议,只想说的是:顶尖高手之所以成为顶尖高手,the desire to win一定是非常强烈的,而这个欲望的表现因个人的性格而不同。象Safin,就表现在痛恨自己上;而Sampras却越险越镇定。只要能得冠军,五十年后谁还记得某某某在得冠军的路上打了道德擦边球?人们只记得哪年的冠军是谁。游戏规则固然应该遵守,规则之外的这个那个,则未必时刻拘泥。
Posted: 2005-07-15 10:25
by icefire
是啊,成王败寇,颠扑不破的真理。
麦肯罗兄弟俩在网球界都是颇有分量。 哥哥自不用说,弟弟在改行做教练、领队和评论后也了得。
Monica在一次温网中,被各人抨击大叫扰乱心神,然后那次决赛她就硬忍住没有叫,很干脆地输掉了。这次温网沙娃、大威的叫声有被指责,Monice跳出来为她们不平。说来也是,如果你自小养成的击球习惯,骤然改变,是会很不适应的。
Henin那次,可不仅仅是一个误判的问题,她在比赛里做的手脚多了。最过分的是克意煽动观众对小威的敌对情绪(不过这点上,小威也有很大责任,谁让她在去法网前居然大肆讥讽法国的作战政策)。到得后来,小威根本是在和所有人对抗。这种现象,在网球比赛中是屡见不鲜,但是夹杂了两国间不良关系的因素,还是颇为罕见的。
