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中澳如何结下梁子及球迷心理
Posted: 2006-06-30 6:36
by Jun
黄啥啥为什么这么讨厌澳大利亚?我在洗澡时才想通(洗澡是我脑子最灵的时候)。八二年还是八六年世界杯外围赛的时候(记不清了),中国队本来在太平洋区出线形势一片大好,只要打胜xx队就能“冲出亚洲,走向世界”。不过他们没能赢那场比赛,而是打平了,就只能等下一场澳大利亚对沙特阿拉伯的结果,不过还是希望很大,因为沙特要胜,而且净胜球必须四个或更多。结果,沙特四比零胜澳大利亚,沙特出线,中国回家。球迷气死了。那时是中国足球队第一次这么风光,我怀疑是因为那之前还没多少人看足球,所以没什么全国人民众望所托这一套。其实黄啥啥一提容志行我就该想到的。现在的球迷大多是九零年开始看足球的,对这茬儿根本不知道。我是老古董了,记得那时候大学生失望之余上街游行什么的,而且我爸爸和哥哥那时候看球挺积极的。不过黄啥啥这些人肯定是知道这段历史的,按中国球迷的心理,自己没赢球要等别人,那是不管的;澳大利亚恰好输四个球给沙特,竟然不帮中国队一把
Posted: 2006-06-30 6:54
by 花差花差小将军
你老人家升堂很早么衙役们都还没来

Posted: 2006-06-30 6:56
by Jun
就早上半个钟头有空写中文,呵呵。
Posted: 2006-06-30 7:21
by 花差花差小将军
唉我今天早来上班因为中午我就鞋底抹油了这个周末出门唯一的遗憾就是几场球赛看不到拉

今天早上的WP 运动栏预测今天早上的德阿比赛很可爱说教皇是德国人但是God 可是阿根廷人 -- 影射年前的那个从中场一路杀进球网的那个有争议的手球阿

Posted: 2006-06-30 7:24
by Jun
Going somewhere fun for the whole next week?

When you sit in the sun and sip Corona, I'll be moving house and opening boxes...

Posted: 2006-06-30 7:42
by CAVA
Jun一向都很早,小K上网也也很早的。
很多中国球迷不待见澳队,会不会有希丁克的原因,因为他是前韩国队主教练?还有一个可能,觉着你澳大利亚算老几,那足球豪门队(我特讨厌这词儿)谁谁谁都进不了八强,你还不赶快回家凉快去。自己中国当不了足球大国,往豪门靠拢也成。
我相信其它国家也有这样的球迷。德国人不是说谁把他们老对头荷兰队踢回家就爱死谁吗?有一回英格兰对法国,苏格兰那边的媒体高唱支持法国队,两个队都输最好,如果只有一个输,当然更希望英格兰输。我听得目瞪口呆,真是编也编不出来的。
英国球迷和舆论最惹人烦的一点就是盯住一两个人捧杀,现在天天把鲁尼挂在嘴上,好象当初拿Tim Henman当山歌唱,惹得我一看见Henman输球就心理阴暗地窃喜。
Posted: 2006-06-30 7:54
by 胖啊
82年,新西兰。
本来,那么让人昏昏欲睡的比赛,忽然来个戏剧性结尾,赢的又是他喜欢的意大利,作为球迷疯一疯,我只觉得好笑。不专业是不专业,可他除了说意大利的疯话之外,对澳大利亚并没说太过分的(网上说有澳大利亚滚回去等言,我没听到。不过那时候我困,也许睡着了)。赛后是央视主持人张斌和他的电话直播,他就说了不喜欢澳大利亚――我很吃惊(因为转播的时候没太觉得啊),然后说了一大堆理由,82年新西兰是一个,跟中国以后在一组是一个,那天比赛踢的不好是一个――真让我开眼

Posted: 2006-06-30 8:04
by Jun
Oh, it was New Zealand, not Australia. My mistake.
Chinese fans have a deep hatred for Korea. I can smell it all the way across the Pacific.
The same crap goes on in figure skating too. It's a sport, people! Get over yourselves. That's why I find the Olympics media coverage so tiresome.

Posted: 2006-06-30 8:16
by 花差花差小将军
I agree with you. Though I have deep hatred for Japan. It is much better to have Korea team advance than the Japs, yuck

Didn't I just sell myself?

Good luck with the moving -- at least it will be dry and not too hot.
Posted: 2006-06-30 8:38
by elend
82年是沙特放水给新西兰,不过好歹还给了中国和新西兰加赛的机会。
至于韩国,别人怎样不知道,我个人对他们的厌恶完全是因为上界世界杯的无赖行径,和中国足球没有关系。2002年之前,甚至是有点欣赏他们的。
Posted: 2006-06-30 8:57
by Jun
无赖行径 is a common phenomenon. My dad's favorite player of all time, Maradona, is well known for being a happy 无赖. Violent behavior and dirty tricks in the competition are also common, at least more common than gentlemanly behavior, as is natural. No need to develop a long-lasting hatred for a particular team or transplant the hate to even the coach, then infect the team he coaches years later. That is stretching a bit too far. Talk about unsportman like, the Netherlands was hardly respectable in their game with Portugal, and Mr. Shirt Model did NOTHING to discipline and control his players. Have I seen anyone complaining about him? ANyone?
Posted: 2006-06-30 9:48
by ravaged
china has nooo basis for accusing others of dirty tricks... what are 甲A and the CBA famous for, after all?
anyway. it's natural to be pissed off, to hate the game and the players and what not, but at some point one has to admit to being a sore loser. :P
Posted: 2006-06-30 9:58
by Jun
Sport is life. Cheating is a natural part of both. Baseball, cycling, track and field, whatever. The good guys push the limits of what the rules allow. The bad guys play behind and under the rules. Heard about the recent trial in Italian football league? Assume they are dirty until proven otherwise. Nobody's snow white and morally unimpeachable.
Well, at least there isn't a (known) steroid yet that can help figure skaters do better on ice.
Posted: 2006-06-30 10:03
by CAVA
在足球球员里找君子或道德模范那是很费眼神的,场下爱干嘛本来是人家的自由,在场上找到的希望更渺茫。
Posted: 2006-06-30 10:03
by Knowing
韩国队在上届不只是队员踢的脏,还有裁判不公明显偏向主队的行为,这个偏向99% 是背后有交易的。我没看啊,是大家都那么说。踢球脏我是挺讨厌的,很多好球员都是因为受伤被毁。范巴斯腾就是这样被迫提早退役。中国球迷迷他的多,有很大一部分因为这个天才的悲剧。
说实在的,现在足球比十年二十年前是踢的粗野多了。以前吃个黄牌还是个大事,吃个红牌简直是天大的事,算某种耻辱。现在根本不吝了。
Posted: 2006-06-30 10:17
by Jun
Money, mon ami. Because now there is a LOT MORE money involved.
Posted: 2006-06-30 10:24
by 森林的火焰
中国球迷的心理很象钱钟书以前总结的:三十左右的女人对十八九岁的女孩相貌还肯称赞,对二十五六就批评得要命了。当然,这也是他开玩笑。
我已经有资格从被批评进入批评的阶段了,就跟中国球迷似的。
Posted: 2006-06-30 10:35
by CAVA
人人都是专家,人人都要出主意
意大利人也是这样,公司食堂见天好比足协和资深体育记者开研讨会。
Posted: 2006-06-30 10:46
by Jun
想一想历年来的比赛,好像从来没粗野过的球队还真不多。几乎所有的球队都是偶然地粗野一下。连经常得“体育精神奖”的英国队,后来如果碰上了死对头阿根廷那也是要打上一架的。比较不野蛮的,还是我偏向的巴西队。倒不是他们怎么老实,怎么大家风度,怎么讲理(人家搞小动作占便宜可一点不落后),而是(我猜啊)似乎胆儿小,怕受伤,不喜欢跟人推推搡搡的。我很少看他们躺下来铲别人,自己也不怎么跟人抢球--要么就三晃两晃把人家给甩了,要么就往地上一倒,反正,保护自己最要紧,连后卫都是这态度。被人铲了也就是捂着腿表演一下,捞到好处算数。我几乎没见过他们跳起来报复对方,暴力升级。本来嘛,至于嘛,大家抬头不见低头见,下半年说不定就成队友了呢。(我这种态度多不球迷啊。)
Posted: 2006-06-30 10:52
by vivi
I agree with ravaged.
The Korean team didn't put dirty tricks this time, and they still made it to the World Cup, and they put on some good fights. If the Chinese guys could stop bitching and blaming others for their own weakness, they might have a chance be at least something.
Posted: 2006-06-30 11:39
by 狸狸
Knowing wrote:说实在的,现在足球比十年二十年前是踢的粗野多了。以前吃个黄牌还是个大事,吃个红牌简直是天大的事,算某种耻辱。现在根本不吝了。
好象以前判罚不象现在严。
我记得早些年才对铲球没铲到那些定了严格的规则。
Posted: 2006-06-30 11:41
by tiffany
CAVA wrote:在足球球员里找君子或道德模范那是很费眼神的,场下爱干嘛本来是人家的自由,在场上找到的希望更渺茫。
可84!
Posted: 2006-06-30 11:44
by Jun
Germany beat Argintina in penalty kicks. Damn I should have placed money in Vegas. Now it's too late.
Posted: 2006-06-30 11:50
by tiffany
德国人的神经,套用heathcliff的话讲,是用羊肠线做的
Posted: 2006-06-30 15:16
by 密斯张三
Posted: 2006-06-30 18:40
by Jun
LOL. The British knows humor!

Posted: 2006-06-30 18:44
by Jun
I love the Univision commentator who always says: "Cuarenta Minuta!" Every game, every half, I guess to remind the viewer of the approaching break or game. He never yells out other times, only at 40 minutes.
Posted: 2006-06-30 20:22
by CAVA
密斯三引的那段录像太搞笑了

Posted: 2006-06-30 23:54
by nico
jun岂不知远交近攻为中国兵学之精髓?
Posted: 2006-07-01 0:35
by 密斯张三
各么再贴一个Evgeny Plushenko's "Sex Bomb"
Champions on Ice, April 2001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu9rRwn4aBA
for you figure skating lovers out there. warning: bad taste and i suppose not work safe
Posted: 2006-07-01 8:12
by Jun
jun岂不知远交近攻为中国兵学之精髓?
中国足球队深得孙子兵法精髓,用兵如神,所向披靡,打遍天下无敌手。
Posted: 2006-07-01 8:18
by 森林的火焰
中国足球和孙子兵法的大方向是一样的,只差了小小一点儿:孙子兵法是真打,中国足球是说说。
Posted: 2006-07-01 20:50
by 克里斯汀
三小姐转的那个SKATER, 我笑岔了气.

顾盼生姿啊
Posted: 2006-07-04 10:28
by 风铃
Sex Bomb是最让我害怕的节目了,看一次昏一次,每次看到照片都恶心一阵

Re: 中澳如何结下梁子及球迷心理
Posted: 2006-07-04 10:57
by lindamm
Jun wrote:黄啥啥为什么这么讨厌澳大利亚?我在洗澡时才想通(洗澡是我脑子最灵的时候)。
偶也是偶也是――偶还有个很不好的习惯就是会说:I thought of that when I took the shower this morning...然后就遭受众多人的嘲笑

too much details

Posted: 2006-07-04 18:50
by Jun
Oh God I cannot stand the SexBomb exhibition program. Perhaps it's slightly less awful than Philippe Candeloro really skating around half naked, but this is pretty bad too...