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你们都用什么床垫？我老年纪见涨，早上起来老是腰酸背疼脖子僵硬，有人指出这是典型床垫太软造成的。我想换个硬点的，又不知道硬到什么程度合适。Tempurpedic 据说对腰背好，有人用么？
美国几个大的床垫店，谁服务好？如果有服务差的也请指出。床垫不比别的货品，要退换忒麻烦，最好是一次买对了。如果买的不好，也得对方肯上门调换。
多谢了

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既然大家都对记忆海绵床垫有好评，在花差的推荐下，我重点考察了Novafoam. google 一下普遍口碑不错，Costco又是家群众喜闻乐见的放心店，我就懒得先去店里考察，直接下单子了。大概过了一个星期到的，是ups而不是costco 送货，所以是送到门口。如果有白手套服务，他们给拆封安装，把旧床垫运走，比较省心。一个真空包装一百多磅的大方盒，我让handyman 给搬上来放在床架上，剪开包装，它自己就弹开了，也还方便。
新床垫特别厚，软硬适中，不想想像中那样，一躺上去，就随身体形成凹凸，可能是我不够重或者不够热？不过的确臀部有凹下去。睡了几天，早上起来明显的脖子腰背消失，但是背部还是有僵硬的感觉，不过我成天坐那么长时间，不能指望一个床垫就马上改善问题。还是很舒服的，我挺满意。
感谢提供建议的同学。

不知道，我在sleepy's买过se什么什么的床，感觉不错，还。当然床垫这种东西还是的买的时候真人上去躺一躺才知道的。８００刀的确实躺起来不一样。

早上起来老是腰酸背疼脖子僵硬

没有support的床垫的确这样，我深有体会。后来买了memory foam（Tempurpedic是这种材料吧？）的床垫，症状都消失了。但我不知道是否换个硬点儿的床垫也能解决问题。另外枕头也很重要。

买Visco(memory foam)的床垫时，售货员也提醒了，说这个材料不太透气，感觉会比较热一些。

I remember HaoQing is the expert about buying mattress in the States.

I use Beauty Rest from Simmons and so far no complains.

CAVA wrote:

早上起来老是腰酸背疼脖子僵硬

没有support的床垫的确这样，我深有体会。后来买了memory foam（Tempurpedic是这种材料吧？）的床垫，症状都消失了。但我不知道是否换个硬点儿的床垫也能解决问题。另外枕头也很重要。

买Visco(memory foam)的床垫时，售货员也提醒了，说这个材料不太透气，感觉会比较热一些。

是听说感觉比较硬。。。所以我有点犹豫。
我也知道该躺上去试，可是我喜欢特软的，所以光凭感觉看来不行。既然CAVA 也觉得记忆海绵管用，我去店里看看，听说他们是有九十天试用期的。

I have been sleeping on my NovaFoam for almost two years now and I like it. My pillows are also foam ones

This might be too low-end for you, but some mattresses from Ikea ain't bad. A friend of mine got something nofrills in the $300-$400 range, and it seems to work just fine. A little firm, but not too hard.

Also you can look into highend futon mattresses. They work well with platform bed, and they are easy to care for. The good one is filled with layers of wool inside. Quite structured stuff.

Yes, princess, the mattress costs an arm and a leg, but the pea comes free

Take a look here:

http://www.memoryfoammattress.org/

Nice. thanks!

没错儿，我们前N个床垫都是IKEA，是次硬而很厚的那种，睡得也舒服，可惜搬家过程中丢了。但IKEA床垫的普遍问题在于宽而长，安到现有的床架上也许有困难。

How did your mattress got lost during moving? It's quite a huge thing.

Hehe, sorry I was being ambiguous again. We had to give away much furniture, beds and mattresses included, during a few rounds of moving from big to small to big to small apartments.

Oh, that makes perfect sense now. I was thinking, I have heard many things gotten lost during moving, but this is the first time I heard someone lost her mattress.

Good furnitures are so much cheaper in Europe. Many things are about half the price you pay in US. Next time I make it over there, I am seriously considering buying some and have them shipped back in a container.

I also heard nice things about highend mattress stuffed with wool. but the memory foam testimony sounded really tempting :" I slept so well that I woke second day in exactly same position"

I wish I could remember my exact spot when return from the loo

we bought our mattress from Costco, not bad (I think you can return it if you don't like it because you can almost return anything at costco)
I've used some kind of memory foam pillow when I couldn't sleep duing my early pregnancy more than 3 years ago, it didn't help at all (maybe it was hormone that time )

Knowing wrote:I also heard nice things about highend mattress stuffed with wool. but the memory foam testimony sounded really tempting :" I slept so well that I woke second day in exactly same position"

this statement is misleading. if whoever claimed eactly same position meant he/she did not shift position at all the whole night, parts of his/her circulation would be seriously cut off, and he/she would woke up limping or completely numb on one side

Yeah yeah, in physics when calculating energy those are the beginning and ending positions

I spent $2000 on my current mattress and I am quite satisfied with it. But now reading all this information about memory foam, I am tempted.

I probably need to give up a mattress set too when we move again in a couple of months. We have given up quite a bit furniture and house furnishing. And those that stay got damaged, deteriorated or simply lost during rounds of moving. It doesn't help that people send me large frames as gifts! No more new furniture or even small pieces of decoration until we settle down.

yeah, we got our Sealy mattress from Costco.com and it was about $800 for a King size set. Pretty firm, not bad, not bad.

睡木板。不容易腰椎间盘突出

是的是的。我认识的按摩大夫就是这样解决问题的－－他向所有人推荐去Home depot 买 厚的Pressed board,量好尺寸，staff 会给你锯好，你自己回家把两块拼起来（单是一块pressed board比标准queen size的要窄），上面铺上被子啊褥子啊什么的。我试过，非常舒服。比所有的mattress都要硬。而且软硬可自己用加减被褥层数来调整。
而且非常非常便宜－－两块pressed board大约三四十块钱。

Gigi2 wrote:是的是的。我认识的按摩大夫就是这样解决问题的－－他向所有人推荐去Home depot 买 厚的Pressed board,量好尺寸，staff 会给你锯好，你自己回家把两块拼起来（单是一块pressed board比标准queen size的要窄），上面铺上被子啊褥子啊什么的。我试过，非常舒服。比所有的mattress都要硬。而且软硬可自己用加减被褥层数来调整。
而且非常非常便宜－－两块pressed board大约三四十块钱。

我就是这么干的，我的床小，fullsize的床，一块木板比我的床稍微窄那么点，但是放到box上去刚刚好。加了5层褥子。去IKEA买的羽绒褥子，满舒服的。我也是几个月前觉得早起腰酸背痛，觉得床垫不行了，索性就去买了块木板，自己弄了个木板床。目前早期没有腰酸背痛的毛病。要是还嫌硬，可以去买那种薄薄的memory foam铺上去，那就很完美啦！（也不贵。）

That's too much work..
I wanted to buy a Novafoam in Costco, but they ask for a membership or 5% surcharge. 5% of that mattress is more than the annual membership fee! I am so torn. Should I buy a membership? Maybe I can get a friend who has membership to buy me one? I just hate to join a store that is not within walk distance from my apartment!

get a friend to get u one...
on the other hand, u do need a constant supply of kittie litter/food....

Knowing wrote:That's too much work..

是很麻烦，我弄了一天搞定的。
觉得还挺有意思的。

my cat doesn't eat that much... I just don't believe in shopping in large quantity.
Besides, my neighbourhood pet store delivers for free. that beats any price discount.

lvxiu wrote:

Knowing wrote:That's too much work..

是很麻烦，我弄了一天搞定的。
觉得还挺有意思的。

是个爱劳动的主儿。

我星期六去homedepot，发现没带床的尺寸，刚好天也下雨，悻悻然回来了，星期天再去。带着尺寸，赫然发现，木板似乎嫌窄。还是当机立断的买了块，叫人切了，用我的小白运了回来。把我得旧床垫扔了，然后下午又去IKEA扫货，买了一堆褥子，回家铺上。大功告成

从此，我的朋友到我房间来，一屁股坐下总要大叫一声，好硬

我跟随花差，订了只NOVAFOAM。希望十全十美不用退换，不然够麻烦的。阿门！

Amen

Xiao K, you are so fast.

It will take 10 to 15 days to ship.
If your back was hurting like mine, you would be fast too.

Which one did you buy? From USA's Costco site, there are two collections. The choice with Canadian Costco is much less.

Let me know how it works out. If it is good, I would like to buy one too.

I am surprised the NovaFoam mattress and pillow actually are much cheaper than top spring mattress and good quality down pillows. I will go to local Costco to buy a pillow first.

I bought the comfortluxe. Hopefully I will wake up a new person every morning. I will let you know.

From all I have read, I believe you will.

Comfortluxe is not available in Canada.

you can drive to seattle I guess.

I found it. The website has different layouts that's why it took me a while to find it.

I will wait for your testimony before I go to buy it. I like my beauty rest very much but my hubby still has sleeping problem. I guess we will separate after I buy the NovaFoam.

maybe you will like this one more thant beauty rest. :)

I definitely hope so. But from what I read, it is a Love It or Hate It mattress. I am not sure which camp I will belong.

She doesn't need to drive to Seattle. There is a HUGE outlet mall on the border, just for Canadian shoppers with deep pockets like her.

It's the first time that I heard I have a deep pocket.

A good sleep is priceless, isn't it? Lucky Xiao Qing just doesn't understand that without living with someone who never sleep through the night.

I do. Ethan was a terrible sleeper( a terrible eater too).

那个，早上起来老是腰酸背痛的同学平时的坐姿什么的有没有问题？比如是不是经常slouch？我曾经有一段起床背痛的问题非常严重，实际上很多时候是给疼醒的，也不是要死要活，但是搞的睡不下去，起床呆一段时间之后就没事儿了。当时也是很多人跟我说床垫可能不够硬。后来听朋友劝，去看了physical therapist，才知道我的背痛可能跟平时姿势不好有关系，教育我注意坐姿，并且做一些简单的矫正动作，坚持了一段时间之后就好了，也没有换床垫。虽然现在偶尔大睡（〉10hr）的时候起来还是微微有点感觉，但是基本上不碍事儿了。换好的床垫肯定没坏处了，但是如果是平时坐姿很差的话，也还是要注意矫正吧。

Atiti, if your back hurts while sleeping, try using a body pillow. It's a long pillow. When you sleep on the side, put it between your knees so that your back muscle is not strained.

Jun wrote:Atiti, if your back hurts while sleeping, try using a body pillow. It's a long pillow. When you sleep on the side, put it between your knees so that your back muscle is not strained.

我没看懂， 难道侧睡的时候把枕头放在2个膝盖之间会让背部的肌肉得到支持， 不是放在背后支着？