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动物园
Posted: 2007-10-01 14:06
by tiffany
昨天我们两口子闲的,跑动物园玩儿去了。到了趴场觉得不对,咋的都趴满了捏?有鉴于已经交了10刀趴费,就还是排了长队买门票进去看。前两次来都是挺荒的一个园子,基本上没人,这次就赶上一个小人山人海,我很迷惑,以为有什么公园活动,看看介绍,也没有,难道是因为天气太好广大人民群众都出来溜达?
看见熟悉的海狮,笑眯眯的猫头鹰,通过解释牌约略知道原来eagle相当于鹰,vulture相当于鹫,可是不太明白美国国鸟(?)bold eagle明明不秃顶上略有白毛,为什么要叫人家秃头呢?有生以来还第一次看见了蛇蜕皮,那蛇在两个假树之间挤来挤去,蹭掉老皮,蜕下来的皮跟状似大块皮屑,跟我想像中一个完完整整的皮壳子完全两回事情。非洲野狗是一种非常惫赖的动物,一群狗跟那儿脚不沾地似的奔跑追咬,累了就一屁股往地上一坐,脑袋啪往前腿上一搭,一幅无赖形象。左邻长颈鹿,右舍小猎豹都是优雅的多的动物,可是真的在非洲草原上碰上了,好像都还不是这无赖的对手。
玩耍期间看到左右都是带一群孩子来的,良人乃抱怨说:你看就咱们两个没孩儿来动物园的!话音未落,迎面走来一对手拉手十指紧扣的男子,我赶紧指出此公园显然不止我们两个无孩儿人士溜达。良人表示很恶心,我说人那是真爱,良人说:长的那么丑,我说长的丑也有真爱。
然后太阳快落山了,公园要关门了,我们就回家了。

Posted: 2007-10-01 14:17
by 花差花差小将军
Bronx zoo?
Posted: 2007-10-01 14:20
by tiffany
yup
Posted: 2007-10-01 15:28
by sing
Is yesterday some day Jewish related? We went to Central Park zoo (first time, so I don't know what it used to be), really lots of people, lots of Jewish people too! Very traditional looking. I just wonder, are the jewish people in Isareal also dressing this way or just the people left in New York?

Posted: 2007-10-02 2:36
by CAVA
笑眯眯的猫头鹰

我很喜欢猫头鹰,说不定是因为它长得象猫。猫科动物真是美貌。
蛇蜕皮的描写可够吓人的。
Posted: 2007-10-02 9:00
by 森林的火焰
笑咪咪的猫头鹰,是不是困了?
我特别喜欢猫头鹰能缓缓地把脖子拧270度,一路凝视的样子,太show off了

Posted: 2007-10-02 9:48
by wuliaotou
上次我们带小朋友去SFO Zoo,结果看到两只老虎,走着走着就开始原地调情然后就地洞房的情景,旁边一个男人说“this is disgusting",另一女人说”it's nature"。我张着嘴说不出话,某人哇了一声,然后小朋友只对路边的花花草草感兴趣。
Posted: 2007-10-02 9:56
by CAVA
我们在南非的野生动物园遇到一大群猴子过境,堵住了去路。它们走着走着就在路中间停了下来,有互相捉虫的,还有就开始进行了繁殖运动。车里除了我们,还有一位当地的男同事,我很尴尬。但是在南非听得最多的一句话就是:this is nature。
Posted: 2007-10-02 10:03
by Jun
People's discomfort is largely stemmed from the city environment our generation grew up in. In a primarily agricultural setting, kids see animals having sex all the time and would not blink at the sight of mating between two xxx's.
(I can't take credit for this conclusion. Read it somewhere long ago.)
Posted: 2007-10-02 10:13
by silkworm
我们有次碰见动物园的解说在猩猩馆里面给一群小学生讲解。
说着说着,一个小猩猩在树上蹲着,忽然poo poo了。
小孩儿们一阵惊呼。
这还不算完,那小猩猩拿手去接。接了,举脸前看看,另一只手去和弄。
小孩儿们和大人们都晕菜了,yuck gross声不绝。
讲解员打圆场儿地说:Kids are kids。
Posted: 2007-10-02 10:21
by 森林的火焰
我一看见这个Poo poo,就立即想起了最近在网上看的UC某神经教授蒲慕明,他给学生的公开信,要求一周工作六天,50小时以上,全是bench work time,看paper上网不算在内,不到写paper不用看文献,每人每年必须出两篇J Neuroscience以上的文章,另外还有blahblahblah的要求一大堆。
我查了一下他的文章,发现他最早的文是1974年的,应该出国也有年头,怎么就把自己的姓给拼成了Poo呢?Pubmed上查他的名字都是Poo M,别无分号

Posted: 2007-10-02 10:27
by Rainbow
Poo 教授....这也太搞了吧

Posted: 2007-10-02 10:52
by gigi
Imagining they have "Poo Lab" labeled outside of their office
To all lab members:
Over the past several months, it has become clear to me that if there is no drastic change in the lab, Poo lab will soon cease to be a productive, first-rate lab that you chose to join in the first place. Lab progress reports over the past six months have clearly shown the lack of progress in most projects. One year ago, when we first moved to Berkeley, I expressed clearly to everyone my expectation from each one in the lab. The most important thing is what I consider to be sufficient amount of time and effort in the lab work. I mentioned that about 60 hr working time per week is what I consider the minimal time an average successful young scientist in these days has to put into the lab work. There may be a few rare lucky fellows like Florian, who had two Nature papers in his sleeve already, can enjoy life for a while and still get a job offer from Harvard. no one else in the lab has Florian's luxury to play around.
Thus I am imposing strict rules in the lab from now on:
1. Every one works at least 50 hr a week in the lab (e.g., 8+ hr a day, six days a week). This is by far lower than what I am doing every day and throughout most of my career. You may be smarter or do not want to be as successful, but I am not asking you to match my time in the lab.
2. By working, I mean real bench work. This does not include surfing on the computer and sending and receiving e-mails for non-scientific matters unrelated to your work (you can do this after work in the lab or at home), and excessive chatting on nonscientific matters. No long lunch break except special occasions. I suggest that everyone puts in at least 6 hr concentrated bench work and 2+ hr reading and other research-related activity each day. Reading papers and books should be done mostly after work. More time can be spent on reading, literature search and writing during working hours when you are ready for writing a paper.
3. I must be informed in person by e-mail (even in my absence from the lab) when you are absent from the lab for a whole day or more. Inform me early your vacation plan. Taking more than 20 working days out of one year is the maximum to me. In fact, none of you are reporting any vacation and sick leave on your time sheet (against the university rule, although I have been signing the sheets), but you know roughly how many days you were not here.
On the whole, I understand and accept the fact that you may not fulfill the above requirements all the time, due to health reasons, occasional personal business. But if you do not like to follow the rules because it is simply a matter of choice of life style, I respect your choice but suggest you start making plans immediately and leave the lab by the end of January 31. I will do my best to help you to locate a lab to transfer or to find a job. If you do accept the conditions I describe above, I am happy to continue to provide my best support to your work, hopefully more than I have done in the past. I will review the progress of everyone in the lab by the end of June of 2002. I expect everyone to have made sufficient progress in the research so that a good paper is in sight (at least to the level of J. Neuroscience). If you cannot meet this goal at that time, I will have to ask you to prepare to leave my lab by the end of August.
Mu-ming
Posted: 2007-10-02 10:57
by Jun
Although lacking in diplomacy, I kind of admire his honesty. If he has a reputation for running a top-notch lab, it's entirely reasonable for him to ask people to leave if they are not motivated to do the work.
Posted: 2007-10-02 11:39
by tiffany
一般正常人都不给他干了吧?
Posted: 2007-10-02 11:54
by 森林的火焰
所以他2001年以后出的最高paper是PNAS
他那宝号好象在中国有分号,因为我看说是连国庆、劳动节、春节在内不能放多于五周假。如果是有中国的分号,那些学生可就惨了,不比美国学生或博后那么多选择。
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:01
by saveas
I will review the progress of everyone in the lab by the end of June of 2002.
2002年的?
这封信真彪猛,任何人看到老板这样写邮件估计就要计划着打起小包裹走人了
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:03
by 森林的火焰
哎,查了一下,他原来是神经所的所长,台湾人,全职在国内的。
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:09
by Jun
If his lab is 彪猛 enough and most of his students go on to become faculty and publish in Science and Neurons, then his demands are no big deal or even unnecessary. Of course, if his research is weak anyway then it's just silliness.
Remember how crazy the (reputed) Google hiring process is? Demand and supply 21.
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:11
by silkworm
其实这封信就是口气太彪悍了。实质内容深究起来,也不是特别特别出格:
每周工作6天,每天8小时,8小时至少是做实验6小时。
一天以上不来实验室要向老板报告。休假要提前通知老板,每年休假不超过20个工作日(连上周末就是一个月整了)。
除了6天这一点,其它的我觉得都是普通要求,我之前都做到的,即使我绝对肯定必然不是年轻又成功的科学工作者。
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:42
by tiffany
其实对大部分稍微严肃点儿做实验的人来说,这个时间表不是问题,因为肯定大家做的只多不少 ---当然我做不到了---,不过我老人家颇认识几个长在实验室里的。但是这些东西被写出来当要求就有点儿过了,给人此实验室注重拼体力而不太讲究效率的感觉。做实验的都知道,实验这个东西有时侯是会做不出来的,此时就应该放开手休假去。
当然要是碰上不自觉的学生,硬性规定工作时间也是一个应对方法,但是无论如何,发这么一封公开信出来,真不是一个好老板。
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:48
by Rainbow
各么 POO 是台湾拼法? 就象刘拼成 LAU?
Remember how crazy the (reputed) Google hiring process is?
是什么样子滴? 有个同学在那里,好象没说有多crazy

Posted: 2007-10-02 12:50
by silkworm
嗯,靠高压政策硬性规定管理学生的老板,其实比较没手腕儿。
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:53
by Jun
Posted: 2007-10-02 12:57
by tiffany
说实在的,看了这封信,我的感觉就是这人不够聪明,我是不会去给他干活儿的。
Posted: 2007-10-04 9:07
by Rainbow
谢谢,我想可能这的确是美国的题, 亚太地区好象不是这样的流程.
北京区是海选....

Re: 动物园
Posted: 2010-02-02 12:19
by bootchange
在mitbbs上居然看到关于蒲慕明的帖子:
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Biolog ... 3_0_1.html
现任中国科学院上海生命科学研究院神经科学研究所所长(外籍)。
感觉还真是讽刺
