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近期书单

Posted: 2008-04-16 19:42
by Jun
难得晚上闲下来,列下最近读的书:
1. The Camel Club by David Baldacci (audiobook)。关于刺杀总统的惊险小说,里面很多阴谋论。本地背景,很多白宫CIA等等的内容。满好看的。作者原本是DC地区的一个律师,改行写惊险小说,这是第一部,现在已经很红了。比较好玩的事里面有个角色,练内功,八卦掌,太极拳,武功超强,被形容得神乎其神。

2. The Long Goodbye by Raymond Chandler。重读这部小说还是蛮感慨的,基本上算是重新发现。他讨厌女人吗?为什么总是写致命的诱惑类涅?

3. Areas of My Expertise by John Hodgeman。他常在The Daily Show 上出现,说说胡话什么的。并主演一个苹果广告。

4. Wonder Boys by Michael Chabon. 需要提醒自己去借 Chabon 其他的书来看,他是美国文坛上的一颗半新星。苦涩的笑那类型。电影很早以前看过,忘记了,看小说时发现没印象。然后把DVD借来重看,惊觉跟小说十分近似。

(刚买了上礼拜爬梯遇到的老太太的历史言情小说Tangier,还没收到。)

John Hodgeman:

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Posted: 2008-04-16 20:25
by silkworm
May I recommend this episode?

Nice Work If You Can Get It
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_E ... sched=1182
Stories of sudden fame, quick riches, and the downside of the dream job.

Act One. I'm Not a TV Star, but I Play One on TV.

This American Life contributor John Hodgman was unexpectedly chosen to be in a series of high-profile Apple Computer commercials (he plays a PC). He tells the happens when celebrity hunts you down and finds you...on your living room couch, pushing 40, and a couple sizes larger than you want to be. John was recorded live during our "What I Learned from Television" tour, before a sold-out audience at Royce Hall in Los Angeles.

Posted: 2008-04-16 20:57
by simonsun
Jun你这些书是在8小时之外读的么?

我每天实验室回来,运动完,吃完饭,哪里还有力气读书。床头小说昏沉沉看10页就要睡过去了。 :f28:

Posted: 2008-04-16 21:16
by Jun
是啊。

孙同学,我不运动的,木有足够的动力为腹肌而流汗。 :mrgreen:

Wonder Boys 里有一段形容主角的恋人Sara Gaskell,是他所在大学的chancellor,而她的老公是主角的上司英文系主任。Sara 极度热爱字儿,进厕所要带两本书,躺浴缸里还要带书。因为怕穷怕养活不了自己而顺从她母亲学了会计当了administrator,其实最爱书。她很不会打扮,衣着古板,穿两寸跟的鞋就会摔跟头。这一段让我差点哭了。这不是在形容我吗!除了当不上大学chancellor以外。

Posted: 2008-04-16 23:36
by saveas
你知道,Jun,按照现在流行的说法就是宅女,宅在家里看书哈哈哈。当然现在很多自认宅女的人其实远不够宅。

国内最近引进很多Chandler的书,我正在犹疑着要不要买来看,基本上我不怎么饭硬汉派

Posted: 2008-04-17 5:02
by 陈周侯
“他讨厌女人吗?为什么总是写致命的诱惑类涅? ”

非也,Chandler也经常写好女人,Farewell, My Lovely、The High Window、The Little Sister都有,最后 Playback 里 Philip Marlowe自己还娶了一个不是?但他小说里的世界一片淫乱昏暗,哪是好女人当家作主的地方,还是当致命妖妇比较容易出风头。

古典推理迷想试Chandler可以从 The Lady in the Lake 开始,这是Chandler最接近古典推理的长篇,也是他最弱的长篇之一,如果这本都看不惯那其它就算了。

Posted: 2008-04-17 6:56
by Jun
不爱看硬汉派就算了,他还是挺有代表性的。我看的第一部 Chandler 是长眠不醒,至少二十年了吧?中文的,翻得不错。现在流行的超速译法儿,能行吗?根据我的经验,如果有兴趣就从The Big Sleep长眠不醒开始看好了,要么从短篇集也可以。我觉得还好的是The Little Sister和Farewell My Lovely。

我跟另一个看RC 的同事聊,她觉得里面的 femme fatale 就是根据 genre 需要而已,同类型的小说都这样儿,读者也期待。我是觉得Terry Lennox 才是Marlowe 的真爱哈哈,不过据说他是很反感同志的,至少在口头上立场坚定。

白博喜欢 Hammett,Chandler 太三屉馒头了,她能推荐点儿 Hammett。
他小说里的世界一片淫乱昏暗
That's realism --- if you live in Hollywood.

怎样叫宅女?为啥不叫书女?我就不抢这个标签了哈哈,已经有一个"书虫"了。动辙强调性别好象有点儿不feminist。书也不是一定要在家看。有声书都是在地铁里听的。

Posted: 2008-04-17 7:25
by 火星狗
真正性别意味浓厚的是宅男和腐女,宅女已经是客气的说法了。 :mrgreen: 不过我有时候开玩笑会自称“阿宅”。

Posted: 2008-04-17 7:37
by Jun
Oh, I see. Just another way to call bookworms "losers". :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-17 8:35
by 火星狗
At least they are kind enough not to say "losers" directly. I appreciate it. :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-17 8:38
by 陈周侯
Jun wrote:我跟另一个看RC 的同事聊,她觉得里面的 femme fatale 就是根据 genre 需要而已,同类型的小说都这样儿,读者也期待。
嗯,此为正解。
Jun wrote:我是觉得Terry Lennox 才是Marlowe 的真爱哈哈,不过据说他是很反感同志的,至少在口头上立场坚定。
何止,还有Chandler的晚年蕾丝闺密指他也是未出柜的同志呢。这种事只能是,答案风中漂,意淫无极限。我就一直怀疑卡夫卡也是呢,如有雷同,纯属巧合。

Chandler的短篇最得我心的是两篇,Goldfish和Red Wind,一篇冷硬似铁,一篇感伤入怀,正好代表他的两个极端。他用来拼Lady in the Lake的两篇――Bay City Blues和Lady in the Lake――也值得一读,这两个短篇反倒写得比后来的那个长篇更均衡丰满。

Posted: 2008-04-17 8:39
by Jun
Red Wind I like too.

Goldfish -- is it the "talking like Jane Austen" story? :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-17 8:42
by 火星狗
答案风中漂,意淫无极限
Are people really "higher" when reading if they know the author is 弯? :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-17 8:55
by tiffany
是,我对钱得勒的印象不错,但是他在我这儿排名不算太高---形容词儿用的太多,且看了几本儿,给我holier than thee的感觉,就不大爱看了。螺丝卖当劳感觉比他朴素,而热爱生命,相比我更加喜欢他。汗密特的小说都挺好看,他那个大洋侦探所矮胖干探的故事每个都好看,---且我真喜欢那个传奇时代,男的是男的,女的是女的,我惆怅的说。
jun你咋忘了沃特而貌似里,那厮写小说节奏感真好,短篇小说不觉得短,长篇小说不觉得长,每本儿都好看。

Posted: 2008-04-17 9:04
by 陈周侯
火星狗 wrote:
答案风中漂,意淫无极限
Are people really "higher" when reading if they know the author is 弯?
No,除非他写出这类可疑文字时:

A man in a dark blue Russian tunic and shiny black puttees and flaring breeches stood in the half-open gates. He was a dark, good-looking lad, with plenty of shoulders and shiny smooth hair and the peak on his rakish cap made a soft shadow over his eyes. He had a cigarette in the corner of his mouth and he held his head tilted a little, as if he liked to keep the smoke out of his nose. One hand had a smooth black gauntlet on it and the other was bare. There was a heavy ring on his third finger.

There was no number in sight, but this should be 862. I stopped my car and leaned out and asked him. It took him a long time to answer. He had to look me over very carefully. Also the car I was driving. He came over to me and as he came he carelessly dropped his ungloved hand towards his hip. It was the kind of carelessness that was meant to be noticed.

He stopped a couple of feet away from my car and looked me over again.

"I'm looking for the Grayle residence," I said.

"This is it. Nobody in."

"I'm expected."

He nodded. His eyes gleamed like water. "Name?"

"Philip Marlowe."

"Wait there." He strolled, without hurry, over to the gates and unlocked an iron door set into one of the massive pillars. There was a telephone inside. He spoke briefly into it, snapped the door shut, and came back to me.

"You have some identification."

I let him look at the license on the steering post. "That doesn't prove anything," he said. "How do I know it's your car?"

I pulled the key out of the ignition and threw the door open and got out. That put me about a foot from him. He had a nice breath. Haig and Haig at least.

"You've been at the sideboy again," I said.

He smiled. His eyes measured me. I said:

"Listen, I'll talk to the butler over that phone and he'll know my voice. Will that pass me in or do I have to ride on your back?"

"I just work here," he said softly. "If I didn't--" he let the rest hang in the air, and kept on smiling.

"You're a nice lad," I said and patted his shoulder. "Dartmouth or Dannemora?"

"Christ," he said. "Why didn't you say you were a cop?"

We both grinned. He waved his hand and I went in through the half open gate.

(Farewell My Lovely)

另据imdb的小道消息,Clive Owen 可能会在一部现筹备中的影片中扮演Philip Marlowe,不知道能否成真。

Posted: 2008-04-17 9:06
by Jun
I would not classify Walter Mosley into the hardboiled detective genre. But yes his stuff is quite "hard," occasionally uneasy.

I hate to break it to you, Dr. Tiff, but men and women in that period did not actually talk and behave like the hardboiled novels and Film Noir movies (except for Hammett and Helman maybe) ... :mrgreen: :cat74:


Hey, Clive Owen would be a good Marlowe. Chandler himself liked Bogart, but said he preferred the puny Alan Ladd.

Posted: 2008-04-17 9:25
by 陈周侯
http://www.variety.com/article/VR111796 ... id=13&cs=1

哦,已经不是小道消息了,《综艺》都登了,股沟不勤,惭愧。

Alan Ladd would have been perfret. Bogart 把 Marlowe 演得和 Sam Spade 一个德行,这咋成呢。唉,看在他和Lauren Bacall之间荤段子交流得很火辣的份上。

Posted: 2008-04-17 9:30
by tiffany
陈周侯引用的这段儿,啧啧,印证了我老对他形容词儿太多的评价,--手还要没带手套的手,影子还要软的,嘻嘻。

Posted: 2008-04-17 9:42
by 陈周侯
人家这分明是心思细腻,懂得情调,俺悲愤地说。 :let_me_die:

Posted: 2008-04-17 9:50
by tiffany
我只是说他用的多,又没有说他用的不准确,嘻嘻。

说道侦探小说,除了窝特而貌似里,pj james我也满喜欢的,虽然她的小说完全是走的严肃小说的路子。她的宗教背景满强的,经常写priest的事儿。

Posted: 2008-04-17 9:52
by 火星狗
我赤裸裸的说――闷骚。对不起啊,这个词太 harsh 了点 :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-17 10:04
by 陈周侯
何止闷骚,还特别自恋,没事就瞅着个镜子自言自语,简直gay到家了。

Posted: 2008-04-17 10:29
by tiffany
sigh, this book talk reminded me of the good acient time when I have so much time to read novels.....

Posted: 2008-04-17 10:39
by Jun
为了防止陈同学给没看过Chandler的读者造成先入为主的印象,我必须跳出来说一下,其实他的小说是很不弯的,至少我这个直女不认为弯。The Long Goodbye 算是比较让人起疑,但也只是淡淡的三屉馒。

Posted: 2008-04-17 12:09
by CAVA
此贴为bookworm俱乐部,鉴定完毕。

谁说书虫是loser我跟谁急 :mrgreen: 其实很佩服现在阶段还能看很多书的人,想当年我也是书虫一枚,曾几何时堕落为电视剧观赏者了。

Posted: 2008-04-17 12:41
by 火星狗
说实话,楼顶贴的大照片儿就挺那个的,当然我们书虫自己会说他 cute 的。 :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-17 13:19
by 笑嘻嘻
我反对把书虫贴上 loser 标签。顶楼那人不 cute。 :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-17 13:20
by tiffany
说道cute,今天早晨有个人形容教皇微笑cute来着。

Posted: 2008-04-17 13:54
by 洛洛
我正在看JOHN GRISHAM的新书《THE APPEAL》。故事开头的情节设定和A CIVIL ACTION一样,都是一家化学公司污染当地土地水源,造成无数人白血病和癌症死亡。我看了两章忍不住翻了后面结局,看来是坏人赢了好人输了,有点儿沮丧。不过这本书还是一样精彩(对我这种小粉丝来说),所以会紧接着看下去。
JOHN最近的书都没有他原来那种纯粹小说虚构的乐观了。

Posted: 2008-04-17 14:13
by stracciatella
赶紧收藏下书单,等我忙完这阵也要看。

现在仅有空,睡觉前看NEWSCIENTIST。 :speechless002:

Posted: 2008-04-17 14:34
by 洛洛
Jun wrote:Oh, I see. Just another way to call bookworms "losers". :mrgreen:
反面的也有一个词“tv-watching illiterate”
真是耍mean无极限哪。 :f59:

Posted: 2008-04-17 15:00
by putaopi
Jun wrote:为了防止陈同学给没看过Chandler的读者造成先入为主的印象,我必须跳出来说一下,其实他的小说是很不弯的,至少我这个直女不认为弯。The Long Goodbye 算是比较让人起疑,但也只是淡淡的三屉馒。
才想起来我也有本Chandler的短篇集,< Trouble is My Business>, 曾经是我的火车读物。好像第一篇就是< Red Wind>, 最后一篇是< Gold Fish>. 不过,具体内容都忘了,改天再看一遍。

上了岁数的好处,是旧书常读常新,省了钱买新的了。

Posted: 2008-04-17 15:10
by dropby
CAVA wrote:此贴为bookworm俱乐部,鉴定完毕。

谁说书虫是loser我跟谁急 :mrgreen: 其实很佩服现在阶段还能看很多书的人,想当年我也是书虫一枚,曾几何时堕落为电视剧观赏者了。
同堕落. 我的借口是自己英文阅读速度太慢了.

Posted: 2008-04-17 22:39
by saveas
默默收藏书单。我最近几年推理小说看日系的灰常多,从屯书屯电子档现在直接进化为买台版书,日系推理小说很少有得我欢心的作家,至爱的只有东野圭吾一个人而已,宫部美幸做候选新欢。

心得是,台版书真耐看啊,原来出差带PSP,现在出差带一本台版书。飞去深圳看掉小半本,在酒店晚上看一点,飞回无锡再看小半本。差不多需要4~5个小时看一本书,比普通简体版慢一倍。

其实现在宅男腐女吧,从日本推广到华语地区已经不是最初的意思了,我观摩过一个日本节目做过otaku的专题,啊,那个确实是我们消受不起的挖

Posted: 2008-04-18 10:04
by bootchange
说到日系,觉得桐野夏生的算比较特别一点的悬疑小说了,不过看的也是竖排的繁体字,痛苦啊!

Posted: 2008-04-24 16:36
by xyz
Highly recommend this book "Intuition" by Allegra Goodman to anyone who is interested in basic science research. Several friends told me that it truly describes the postdoc life in the area of medical research. The author got her first-hand material from her younger sister's (an oncologist) lab.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegra_Goodman