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[分享] 肌肉男 for 弯男 only

Posted: 2008-06-21 10:04
by Jun
从Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me 节目上听来的。(哈哈,原来肚腩控是极其正常的现象。)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/fashi ... ef=fashion


So say scientists at the frontiers of research on the eternal question of what women find erotic, the latest answer to which seems to be: not naked guys, or at least not simply naked guys.

“For heterosexual women,” a researcher, Meredith Chivers, says in a new documentary about bisexuality called “Bi the Way,” which was shown at the NewFest film festival in New York last Friday, “looking at a naked man walking on the beach is about as exciting as looking at landscapes.”
Heterosexual women, Dr. Chivers and her colleagues found, were no more excited by athletic naked men doing yoga or tossing stones into the ocean than they were by the control footage: long pans of the snowcapped Himalayas. When straight women viewed a video of a naked woman doing calisthenics, on the other hand, their blood flow increased significantly.

Posted: 2008-06-21 10:09
by 火星狗
很社会学的讲,这不正体现了社会对女性的压抑吗?男性被培养成看到裸女就兴奋。女性被培养成看到裸男一点也不兴奋。

最近的话题都有点不正经啊。 :preston_collar:

Posted: 2008-06-21 10:11
by Jun
“男性看到裸女就兴奋” 可不是社会培养的。

Posted: 2008-06-21 10:12
by 火星狗
那换成“被社会宽容得到了充分发展”

Posted: 2008-06-21 10:15
by Jun
而且,有什么比传宗接代更正经更重要的事?

Posted: 2008-06-21 10:21
by 火星狗
对,很正经又重要,即使出于学术兴趣我们也要常常探讨哦。

Posted: 2008-06-21 10:54
by CAVA
我对肌肉和裸体没兴趣,是上来感叹JUN日新月异的vocabulary的,“控”!

Posted: 2008-06-21 11:19
by Elysees
CAVA wrote:我对肌肉和裸体没兴趣,是上来感叹JUN日新月异的vocabulary的,“控”!
我则上来表示对CAVA这么风雅的人居然知道“控”这个词的感叹。――但是你仿佛没用对? :confused007:

Posted: 2008-06-21 11:28
by CAVA
笑工程师风地说:1)是想引用不是使用 2)非风雅之人也 3)追日剧和看日剧论坛,偶尔会撞到颜控之类的词语 4)控原来是complex,实在典型的日本外来语 :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-06-21 14:31
by simonsun
上当了。我还以为是贴图。

Posted: 2008-06-21 19:16
by tiffany
西门孙非常失望的说。
嗯,我很科学的提问,这个血流加速是哪里的血流加速?如何证明这个加速correlate to女性兴奋?
昨天在NPR上听到一个科学简报说基因决定女性是否好妈,就遭人民群众质疑说你那个好妈的标准有问题。-----我很赞同人民群众的质疑。

而我做为一个直女大声疾呼我们不能放弃对肌肉美男的权力!不能啥好处都让男同志们揽着。

Posted: 2008-06-21 19:23
by 笑嘻嘻
是啊,千万别跟我说广大年轻英俊肌肉帅哥在大银幕上脱脱脱是单给弯男看来挣票房的。

Posted: 2008-06-21 19:25
by Jun
谁知道她量的是哪里的血流,大概是那里的吧,arousal 也可以用“干湿” 来测量。

嘻嘻,其实你们可以自己在家试验嘛。 :cat88: :cat74:

Posted: 2008-06-21 19:31
by tiffany
jun这个问题可不能大概过去。我还真不信做这个研究测量的血流量是你说的,要是的话我就不信她能recruit到够多的女性来做这个研究。

Posted: 2008-06-21 19:37
by Knowing
这种研究有什么实用价值么?我很工程师的问。

Posted: 2008-06-21 19:42
by tiffany
呃,教育直男勾引直女的时候给伊放毛片儿?

Posted: 2008-06-21 19:48
by Jun
可见白博还是老派人哪。

为科学怕什么?六七十年代就有科学家在实验室里研究masterbation和一对爱人做爱让他们研究,发现女性可以在短时间内反复来高潮,而不像男性那样需要好长一段缓冲时间恢复;发现女性的自慰效果不逊于两个人做爱。颠覆级的发现哦。

See information about the research by Masters and Johnson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_and_Johnson


To measure blood flow anywhere, I think (not sure) you need only a small instrument taped to the skin surface, with wires connected to a machine.

To test for arousal, I think (not sure) it can be done with simply measuring pupil dilation in the eye and some similar ways. There may be other measurements possible like skin temperature, sweating, and stuff. Not as eeewwwww as one might imagine.

Posted: 2008-06-21 20:31
by Knowing
原来这些是六七十年代才发现的啊。 :twisted:

Posted: 2008-06-21 20:32
by tiffany
对,不是还有后续研究说生理高潮是差不多的,心理需求的满足还是得来个男的。

Posted: 2008-06-22 9:18
by Knowing
生理高潮差不多么?我怎么一向的印象是统计数据说明:女性即使是同一个人,生理高潮强度差别也很大。男性的生理高潮是差不多的。

Posted: 2008-06-22 14:57
by Jun
小K 的说法我没听过,reference 呢?听说过的是,引发男性arousal 很容易,给他们看波看臀即可,很可靠,女性就摸不着头脑。

Posted: 2008-06-22 15:35
by Knowing
好像没有证据 -- 大家都那么说我就以为这是common sense 。 :party005: 谁给放狗搜一下理论依据?

Posted: 2008-06-22 19:41
by 火星狗
Mother nature的设计真是了不起,如果女人的兴奋和男人一样容易唤起,她又不需要间隔来重复高潮,嗯,太overburden了。