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Post by Jun » 2008-06-30 6:45

Fascinating. This is who will decide you and your children's and your grandchildren's life in this country. Good luck.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... id=topnews


In Flag City USA, False Obama Rumors Are Flying

By Eli Saslow
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, June 30, 2008; A04



FINDLAY, Ohio -- On his corner of College Street, Jim Peterman stares at the four American flags planted in his front lawn and rubs his forehead. Peterman, 74, is a retired worker at Cooper Tire, a father of two, an Air Force veteran and a self-described patriot. He took one trip to Washington in 1989 -- best vacation of his life -- and bought a statue of the Washington Monument that he still displays in a glass case in his living room.

He believes a smart vote is an American's greatest responsibility. Which is why his confusion about Barack Obama continues to eat at him.

On the television in his living room, Peterman has watched enough news and campaign advertisements to hear the truth: Sen. Barack Obama, born in Hawaii, is a Christian family man with a track record of public service. But on the Internet, in his grocery store, at his neighbor's house, at his son's auto shop, Peterman has also absorbed another version of the Democratic candidate's background, one that is entirely false: Barack Obama, born in Africa, is a possibly gay Muslim racist who refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

"It's like you're hearing about two different men with nothing in common," Peterman said. "It makes it impossible to figure out what's true, or what you can believe."

Here in Findlay, a Rust Belt town of 40,000, false rumors about Obama have built enough word-of-mouth credibility to harden into an alternative biography. Born on the Internet, the rumors now meander freely across the flatlands of northwest Ohio -- through bars and baseball fields, retirement homes and restaurants.

Faced with polling that shows about one in 10 Americans thinks Obama is Muslim, the candidate's campaign has launched an aggressive effort to discredit rumors and clarify Obama's past. It created a "Fight the Smears" Web site and a new television ad that reiterates Obama's Christian faith, patriotism and family background. Dozens of volunteers have been sent to Ohio five months in advance of the election so they can spend extra time educating voters.

But on Peterman's block in Findlay, the campaign's efforts may already be too late. A swing voter who entered this election leaning Democratic, Peterson faces a decision that is no longer so simple as a choice between Obama and Republican Sen. John McCain, he said. First, he must pick the version of Obama on which he will stake his vote.

Does he choose to trust a TV commercial in which Obama talks about his "love of country"? Or his neighbor of 40 years, Don LeMaster, a Navy veteran who heard from a friend in Toledo that Obama refuses to wear an American-flag pin?

Does he trust a local newspaper article that details Obama's Christian faith? Or his friend Leroy Pollard, a devoted family man so convinced Obama is a radical Muslim that he threatened to stop talking to his daughter when he heard she might vote for him?

"I'll admit that I probably don't follow all of the election news like maybe I should," Peterman said. "I haven't read his books or studied up more than a little bit. But it's hard to ignore what you hear when everybody you know is saying it. These are good people, smart people, so can they really all be wrong?"

'Funny About Change'

Peterman bought his single-story house here in 1959, a few months after he left the Air Force and married. His wife, Mildred, had grown up in Findlay, and they never considered moving anywhere else. On College Street, the couple found all the hallmarks of America's heartland: a house for $9,000; a neighborhood where their two boys, one handicapped, could play outside after dark; a steady "pencil-pushing" job up the road for Jim at Cooper Tire headquarters.

The neighborhood built up around them. Leroy and Wanda Pollard came in 1962, drawn from southern Ohio by a booming auto industry that offered Leroy plenty of work as a mechanic. Mary Dunson bought the place next door in 1963. Don LeMaster, a police officer, moved in up the street with his wife, Margaret, in 1970.

Every newcomer to the block was white, working-class and Midwestern, and the neighborhood jelled easily. They babysat for one another. They complained to one another about their teenagers. They helped raise one another's grandkids. In all, seven different families have lived on the same block of College Street for at least 35 years.

"We all just found a great place at a great time," Leroy Pollard said.

Peterman hung the American flag on his porch first, in 1960, and the rest of College Street followed his example. By 1980, patriotic displays had grown into an unspoken contest of one-upmanship. Sixty flags planted in one yard on Memorial Day; a living-room window painted red, white and blue; a Buckeye tree decorated with Christmas ornaments celebrating Americana; a gigantic plastic unicorn perched on a front porch and draped in an American flag.

The entire block -- and, soon, the entire town -- shared in unabashed pride and gratefulness for the country that had given them this place. In 1968, a local congressman persuaded the House of Representatives to officially declare Findlay as Flag City, USA.

But with their pride came a nasty undercurrent, one that Obama's candidacy has exacerbated: On College Street, nobody wanted anything to change. As the years passed, Peterman and his neighbors approached one another to share in their skepticism about the unknown. What was the story behind the handful of African Americans who had moved into a town that is 93 percent white? Why were Japanese businessmen coming in to run the local manufacturing plants? Who in the world was this Obama character, running for president with that funny-sounding last name?

"People in Findlay are kind of funny about change," said Republican Mayor Pete Sehnert, a retired police officer who ran for the office on a whim last year. "They always want things the way they were, and any kind of development is always viewed as making things worse, a bad thing."

When people on College Street started hearing rumors about Obama -- who looked different from other politicians and often talked about change -- they easily believed the nasty stories about an outsider.

"I think Obama would be a disaster, and there's a lot of reasons," said Pollard, explaining the rumors he had heard about the candidate from friends he goes camping with. "I understand he's from Africa, and that the first thing he's going to do if he gets into office is bring his family over here, illegally. He's got that racist [pastor] who practically raised him, and then there's the Muslim thing. He's just not presidential material, if you ask me."

Said Don LeMaster: "He's a good speaker, but you've got to dig deeper than that for the truth. Politicians tell you anything. You have look beyond the surface, and then there are some real lies."

Said Jeanette Collins, a 77-year-old who lives across the street: "All I know for sure about Obama is that we're not ready for him."

Only one man on College Street remains open-minded, and recently even Peterman has started to sway. Like most of his neighbors, he dislikes McCain for his stance on the Iraq war and would like to cast his vote for a president who will bring the troops home. But on a recent visit to his son's auto shop, Peterman overheard misinformed customers talking again about a Muslim in the White House.

"I don't know. The whole thing just scares me," Peterman said. "I'm almost starting to feel like the best choice is not voting at all."

The Truth Squad

So far, those who have pushed the truth in Findlay have been rewarded with little that resembles progress. Gerri Kish, a 66-year-old born in Hawaii, read both of Obama's autobiographies. She has close friends, she said, who still refuse to believe her when she swears Obama is Christian. Then she hands them the books, and they refuse to read them. "They just want to believe what they believe," she said. "Nothing gets through to them."

The new advertisement running in Findlay, in which Obama is pictured with his white mother and white grandparents as he talks about developing a "deep and abiding faith in the country I love" while growing up in the Kansas heartland, is dismissed by residents of College Street as the desperate lies of another dishonest Washington politician. And they say that Obama's moves to put distance between himself and the Muslim community, with his campaign declining invitations to visit mosques and Obama volunteers removing two women in head scarves from the camera range at a rally in Detroit earlier this month are just a too-late effort to disguise his true beliefs.

For the past month, two students from the University of Findlay have spent their Tuesday nights walking from door to door in the city to tell voters about Obama. Erik Cramer and Sarah Everly target Democrats and swing voters exclusively, but they've still experienced mixed results. Sometimes, at a front door, they mention their purpose only to have a dozen rumors thrown back at them and the door slammed. "People tell us that we're in the wrong town," Everly said.

Soon, on a Tuesday night, they'll walk down College Street -- past the American flags, past the LeMasters, past the Pollards -- and knock on Jim Peterman's front door. They will ask for two minutes of his time, and Peterman will give it to them. He will listen to their story, weighing facts against fiction. For a few minutes, he might even believe them.

Then he'll close his door and go inside, back to his life. Back to his grocery store, back to his son's auto shop, back to the gossip on College Street. Back to the rumors again.
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Post by 森林的火焰 » 2008-06-30 7:07

往好处想:这些人都至少六十岁以上了,他们的子孙辈(当地大学的大学生)看来和他们的想法不一样。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-06-30 7:12

”I understand he's from Africa, and that the first thing he's going to do if he gets into office is bring his family over here, illegally.“
这真是皇帝用金斧头砍柴啊。。。

“But it's hard to ignore what you hear when everybody you know is saying it. These are good people, smart people, so can they really all be wrong?"
我发现任何小群体里的人都倾向于高估本小范围内的平均智力 :mrgreen:

不过说实在的,我觉的这记者有点讨厌,虽然我不觉的小镇人民都是人精,但也真不相信他们都那么。。。。中西部。。。。记者干吗净挑傻的写,知道中西部人民也不看华盛顿邮报,这不是存心迎合东岸自由知识分子的猎奇心理么。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-06-30 11:05

Like most of his neighbors, he dislikes McCain for his stance on the Iraq war and would like to cast his vote for a president who will bring the troops home. But on a recent visit to his son's auto shop, Peterman overheard misinformed customers talking again about a Muslim in the White House.

"I don't know. The whole thing just scares me," Peterman said. "I'm almost starting to feel like the best choice is not voting at all."
也挺让人难过的,其实去打仗的大部分都是这些人的子女。

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Post by 森林的火焰 » 2008-06-30 11:05

那老头自己不就是空军退役的么。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-06-30 11:07

相信生命换荣誉的还是少数吧?大部分思维正常的人宁愿搁家呆着。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-06-30 11:16

政治很不正确的说,彼此彼此,其实我看到OBAMA阵营派Wesley Clark出来smear MCCAIN 心里也挺爽的:小样儿,开个飞机被打下来算什么当军事首领的经验啊,这都算经验真是将军的往那儿放啊。
Wesley Clark 经常上CNN,我一看他长的好看就记住了。。。 :mrgreen: 拭目以待帅哥怎么处理这事儿,嘻嘻。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-06-30 11:27

科索沃战争的美帝国主义头头,要我发自内心的欣赏他的美貌有点困难。他人咋样?自由派还是保守派?

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Post by Knowing » 2008-06-30 11:34

他成天上CNN,你说呢?当然是粒民主党。他原来是HRC 的支持者,不过转向转的还挺快,现在俨然是可能的OBAMA 副手人选之一了。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-06-30 11:38

我理解,总也要让中西部群众的安全感满足一下。

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Post by silkworm » 2008-06-30 11:56

嗨,就这种笔法,换了希拉里也一样有怪声。

这文章里的人,不能完全代表饿还饿的群众呼声---2006年州长就选了个民主党的,参议员的恶仗也是民主党的赢。

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Post by Jun » 2008-06-30 12:04

Clark 是挺帅的。好象过去是共和党,后来吃不消倒戈了(跟Jim Webb差不多),变成中间路线的民主党。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-06-30 12:10

说起Jim Webb, 原来我听他上NPR 的时候很有暇想滴:哗,又是Secretary of the Navy, 又是出版了畅销小说的作家,又风趣,又有三个纹身--其中一个还是在海滩上都看不到的地方的。。。yummy....结果过了几天在电视上看见,长的小胖脸大奔头的。。。哎,粉红色的泡泡霹雳啪啦碎了一地。。。 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-06-30 12:17

他那种cute法有点像小猪。
Carl Kasell: Sen. Webb, in your new book, you mention you have three tattoos. We’ve been trying to guess what they are. Sir, what are your tattoos?

Sen. Jim Webb: You’ll have to catch me out at Virginia Beach to find out.

Carl Kasell: You won’t tell us?

Roxanne Roberts: But if we caught you in a swimsuit, we would find out?

Sen. Jim Webb: You would find out about two of them.

Since Webb’s name is floating around as a potential pick for Barack Obama’s Vice President slot, there were a few speculations about how his third tattoo, considered classified ink, might be revealed beyond the shores of Virginia Beach. One idea came in the form of a warning. As part of the vetting process for Vice President, he might have to “go into a back room and let Warren Christopher take a peek at the third tattoo.”
真风骚。

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Post by Jun » 2008-06-30 12:39

Jim Webb 当过记者,我怎么也得挺他一下。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-06-30 12:41

难道他不正是你们这些大叔控的梦中人? :mrgreen:
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-06-30 12:44

Jun的,不是我的,我看他十有八九有个令人满意的小肚子……

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Post by Jun » 2008-06-30 12:46

Anyone who tells GWB "f*** off" is a hero in my book. :mrgreen:

On the contrary, I doubt he has a 令人满意的小肚子. These ex-marines tend to exercise and keep in shape.
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-06-30 12:47

小肚子下面还有个tattoo可以加分……

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Post by silkworm » 2008-06-30 13:59

我猜在屁股蛋儿上,哈哈哈。

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Post by ravaged » 2008-07-02 21:09

but isn't it the whole point to give every misinformed and unfortunate person the same right to decide as the overeducated and worldly? it's a numbers game, but what else can you do?
Now that happy moment between the time the lie is told and when it is found out.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-07-02 21:26

美女说的不错。我现在有点反感 overeducated 有精英意识的人讨论起问题来把简单问题复杂化,越扯越多越偏离主题,最后做出一个非常复杂模棱两可谁也驳不倒的结论。大公司里连程序员讨论问题的时候都经常这样。
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Post by Jun » 2008-07-02 21:29

我没说过不让糊涂人投票啊,一人一票,不管多糊涂多想当然耳。报道一下现实,不等于支持literacy test。

东西两岸有很多很多的高等教育过的精英无论如何不选 Obama 的真正理由,其实并不比这些小镇人民有很大差别。只不过受过教育的好处在于他们不会把真心的理由放在嘴上说出来,而是重复引用电视上报纸上的talking heads 或者在周围人中传播的那些说得出口的理由罢了。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-07-02 22:01

ravaged wrote:but isn't it the whole point to give every misinformed and unfortunate person the same right to decide as the overeducated and worldly? it's a numbers game, but what else can you do?
本来也没办法。所以只好看看邮报的片面报道出气。
民主制度出来的结果我也许不满意,可是民主制度的存在目的也不是要让我满意嘛。
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-07-02 22:19

我现在偷偷摸摸地十分怀疑自己是不是愤青,很明显我呆在哪儿就不满哪儿的主要人群言论。
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-07-02 22:55

不算愤青.














是刺儿头.

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