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Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 9:01
by Knowing
Yes!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/healt ... nted=print
In pushing to include a government-run health insurance plan in the health care bill, the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, is taking a calculated gamble that the 60 members of his caucus could support the plan if it included a way for states to opt out.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 9:59
by silkworm
就是的。
那天不还有人讽刺么,Olympia Snowe跟民主党一条心了,yeah,bi-partisan大获成功!

Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 11:26
by Jun
if it included a way for states to opt out.
I like this. Please let states like South Carolina and Arizona and Texas opt out.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 14:09
by Knowing
Texas should become independant country. They will do such much better by themselvse. And we will not have to worry about having another republican president for a while
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 14:18
by 豪情
如果德州独立了, 我要考虑搬过去.
其实加洲稍为保守一点的都搬NV, FL, AZ, CO去了吧.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 14:25
by Knowing
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 15:15
by 豪情
我怕哪天加州来个PROP WHATEVER加入墨西哥去. 墨西哥人已经是主流了.
华州入加拿大的话我倒没意见.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 15:17
by Jun
豪情 wrote:我怕哪天加州来个PROP WHATEVER加入墨西哥去. 墨西哥人已经是主流了.
Texas has just as many if not more Mexicans. In fact, Texas was part of Mexico until not very long ago.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 15:20
by 豪情
加州也一样吧, 过去也是墨西哥一部分. 至少德州不动不动搞全民公投.
我一直算LIBERAL也倾向民主党的, 来了加州看到地方政治和公共服务搞的这么烂, 实在是受不了了.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 15:34
by Knowing
人多的地方公共服务当然没人少的地方弄的好。要怪只能怪加洲气候好就业机会多对移民友好大家都爱去。你为什么去啊, 还不是工作机会多嘛。
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 15:40
by 豪情
都是来掏金/打工的, 没人想把它弄好. 跟东莞工业区一样, 捞完就走, 谁也不想真住下来.等好光景一过, 就是死城.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 15:41
by Jun
I hate California too. And I am as liberal as you get. Perhaps even more so than xiao K.
California is not a normal place. It's neither Democrat nor Republican. It's just insane.
Don't get me started.

Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 16:18
by Knowing
豪情 wrote:都是来掏金/打工的, .
starting from you. you have been planning to move away the minute you arrive

Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 17:03
by simonsun
Jun wrote:I hate California too. And I am as liberal as you get. Perhaps even more so than xiao K.
California is not a normal place. It's neither Democrat nor Republican. It's just insane.
Don't get me started.

So far SF has been good to me... Guess the bad days are yet to come

Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 17:05
by Jun
You should be OK as long as you don't get into the real estate market.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 18:26
by Knowing
Jun wrote:I hate California too. And I am as liberal as you get. Perhaps even more so than xiao K.
Huh? What do you mean by "perhaps"? I don't think there is any doubt you are much much much more liberal than I am. I don't even consider myself democrat.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 18:40
by Jun
Knowing wrote:Jun wrote:I hate California too. And I am as liberal as you get. Perhaps even more so than xiao K.
Huh? What do you mean by "perhaps"? I don't think there is any doubt you are much much much more liberal than I am. I don't even consider myself democrat.
What are you talking about? Democrats are supposed to be liberal? Not these days. Not the Democratic president. Not the Senate majority leader. Not the chair of the Senate Finance Committee. Not all those blue dogs.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-10-23 19:22
by Knowing
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-11-10 14:59
by dropby
通过了呀。怎么没人评点一下?
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-11-10 15:17
by Knowing
It only passed congress, not senate. Senate will be a real fight.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-11-10 15:40
by simonsun
通过了也还要等个好几年才开始。到时候帅哥下台佩林上台,哼唧⋯⋯
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-11-10 15:54
by Jun
simonsun wrote:到时候帅哥下台佩林上台,哼唧⋯⋯
Wouldn't that be a huge amount of fun?
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-11-10 15:58
by Knowing
I want to make Obama the king. With absolute power. No more elections. Wait, one more. to replace Joe Lieberman.
But honestly, if senators can't pass the bill with some form of public option, I am for Bloomberg 2012. F--k the Democratic Party. Obama is young, he should come back for the second term when he can run his party.
Re: Senate Leader Takes Risk Pushing Public Insurance Plan
Posted: 2009-11-10 17:27
by Jun
我早说过了,民主党一点也不 liberal ,只不过现在共和党保守到吓死人的地步才显得他们相对有点 liberal 而已。全民倒退么,什么样的人民就有什么样的政府。