This really happened!

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-09-30 12:25

Sent to me from a friend.

Ok, so the Bush family was yesterday on Dr. Phil show.....there's an article about it in the Post.com but I just copied you the last part....Here's a question that phil had about oral sex
IT'S A CLASSIC RESPONSE!!! TOO FUNNY

Dr. Phil: "If there was something you could say to the parents of America to give them the strength to hang in and go on; we've got epidemic levels of oral sex in the middle schools, we've got alcohol and 40 percent of eighth graders say they have access to drugs and alcohol if they want it. You used to go to the bad part of town, buy drugs on the corner; you get them now on the Internet with Mom sitting at the kitchen table with you and not knowing what you're doing. There are so many struggles. What we're hearing in music today, all of these things. So many parents don't know that there's a radio version and a non-radio version of some of this music. The first time I popped in one of those CDs that I'd heard on TV, it was just astounding . . . so what do you -- what's the advice you give them to hang on?"
There was just no way the first lady was going to let her husband answer a question that had the phrase "oral sex" in it and she jumped right in.
"I think that's the really hard part of parenting now and that is, how can you plan your life so that your children have the strength to make the right choices and to not choose the drugs or the alcohol?" she said.
Despite her best efforts, the president did take a whack at the question, noting that when he ran for governor of Texas in 1994, "one of the issues that I campaigned on . . . we were going to go after deadbeat dads and to make sure that they complied with their responsibility as a father, we were going to suspend their hunting and fishing licenses in the state of Texas."

And we know who has been a cocaine addict most of his life.

猫咪头 · Post by **猫咪头** » 2004-09-30 13:56

And we've seen better cocaine addicts too.

helenClaire · Post by **helenClaire** » 2004-10-01 7:59

昨晚的竞选人第一次辩论，我看了一点点。听到Kerry 说布什打伊拉克是犯下"colossal misjudgements"，说话文诌诌。骇笑过后不喜欢Kerry。

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-01 9:00

I'm sure most middle Americans prefer a leader who says "nuculer" rather than one who actually earned his degree at Harvard.

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2004-10-01 9:04

kerry lacks a certain chrisma, on the other hand, I cannot stand the sight or voice of bush....

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-01 9:12

I didn't watch the debate and wasn't even interested. What were they going to say that would enlighten me? OTOH, I'd like to watch the Cheney--Edwards debate. It would be like watching Darth Vader -- so evil that it's entertaining.

CAVA · Post by **CAVA** » 2004-10-01 9:19

Jun要在如今的televised政治辩论中找enlightenment，要求不是一般的高啊。

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-01 9:22

Geez, Cava you put words in my mouth. I just did not care to waste time on predictable mundane fake unentertaining stuff like the presidential debate.

helenClaire · Post by **helenClaire** » 2004-10-01 9:26

predictable mundane fake unentertaining stuff like the presidential debate

提醒我记得看SNL，他们总能在无聊中发现有趣。

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-01 9:48

I prefer The [Emmy Award Winning] Daily Show with Jon Stewart and the online joke magazine The Onion. These are hilarious takes on politics, society, entertainment, life, and the stupidity of people in general.

Knowing · Post by **Knowing** » 2004-10-01 10:31

I am kind of disappointed at John Kerry. The guy has no logic.

First he said "We should ensure our troops have best equipment, parents are buying gears for their sons in the army as Christmas gifts and that' not right." Then he said : " We spend too much money on this war". Hello???
Also, first he said "We shouldn't have gone into the war with international support, we should have gone in with stronger alliance." Then he suggested on North Korean Nuclear weapon issue "We should sit down and talk directly with North Korea" instead of the current strategy, which includes 6 parties, most importantly, China, in the conversation.

Man, I never had high expectations for Bush. But Kerry doesn't look like a nice alternative either. Good thing I can't vote anyway!

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-01 12:50

如果John Kerry还是一个刚刚从战场上回来的热血青年, 满脑子里装的不是党内指导员的统计数字和竞选战略, 背后没有出了钱等他帮忙说话的各色人等, 眼睛里盯的不是民意调查的指数, 他或许会很有逻辑地说: 我们TMD根本就没有正当理由跟伊拉克打仗, 我投票支持出兵纯粹是政治手段, 我怕我的选民以为我不爱国. 其实你们这些人都是吓得半死受人利用的白痴. 谁会吃饱了撑的, 笨到去跟北韩动武? 你以为我们真有胆子把中国惹毛了吗? 别说他们手里有货真价实的核武器(而不是我们硬给他们栽的赃), 就是往我们这些政治家口袋里装钱的大老板们也不打印啊. 跟中国打仗, 谁给Wal-Mart, Target, JC Penny, 制造廉价商品呐? 告诉你们吧, 国库已经债台高筑, Medicare不出五年就会破产, 中产阶级把穷人富人一起养着, 工薪中青年人负担越来越多老而不死的退休阶层. We're all going to hell in a handbasket.

这才是大实话, 这才合乎逻辑, 敢说这话的人, 你以为有snowball in hell的机会被选上么? 所以我不爱看这种浪费时间的废话辩论. 不过广大群众要的不是合乎逻辑的头脑清醒的说实话的人领导他们, 人民要的只是让他们喜笑颜开暂时忘却谋生之苦的小丑.

helenClaire · Post by **helenClaire** » 2004-10-01 13:48

We're all going to hell in a handbasket.

唉，我想打听打听这篮子里有没有合格的婴儿车座，提不提供Atkin-friendly diet?如果一定要下地狱的话，就想法子做到旅途愉快，安全抵达。

Knowing · Post by **Knowing** » 2004-10-01 13:55

一个不很相关的笑话。
那些骑自行车坐了牢的孩子们不是在抱怨扭腰政府对他们粗暴么？不露伯格就出来辩解：怎么粗暴啦？我们已经尽力而为的把条件搞的好一点了。我们甚至专门给素食者提供了豆素汉堡 ...你们又不是来坐豪华游轮的。

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2004-10-01 14:12

he is going for re-election, any chance that HE is going to win?

vivi · Post by **vivi** » 2004-10-01 14:12

Kerry's wife seems much more interesting than he is .

CAVA · Post by **CAVA** » 2004-10-01 14:34

这才是大实话, 这才合乎逻辑, 敢说这话的人, 你以为有snowball in hell的机会被选上么?

这样大实话明白的人不会少，大家心照不宣而已。既然从事政治就不会这样说话啦，不然甭说总统候选，议员也选不上啊。前面KNOWING提到的那些，也许换个人能说得更合逻辑更天衣无缝些，一样的内容，看怎么说法，嘿嘿。

Knowing · Post by **Knowing** » 2004-10-01 14:47

谁要这么说，我才不选他。大实话我难道不知道？我需要能鼓舞士气，有神奇计划能拯救世界的领导人, 不对，魔术师 !
不过kerry 说堂皇的假话说的很不好。他说：我们应该赶紧撤出伊拉克，省得他们以为我们贪图他们的石油。我心里说你这不是找资本家的抽呢？资本家钱也出了，仗也打了，你不让资本家收获果实, 怎地当资本家是瘟生么?

猫咪头 · Post by **猫咪头** » 2004-10-01 14:57

"According to CNN, many people along the campaign trail are now coming up to Teresa Kerry and telling her to keep speaking her mind. Not surprisingly, they all work for the Bush campaign." -- Late Night NBC

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2004-10-05 20:21

u guys watching the vice-presidential debate? I am really wondering how come John Kerry won the nomination. This Edwards guy is really very very convincing and sincere, even when he was talking about non-existent plan

silkworm · Post by **silkworm** » 2004-10-05 23:02

这家伙一副律师的好口才，可是我鸡蛋里面挑骨头，觉得他“表演略显浮夸”。尤其最后总结发言从他爸爸看电视学算术说起，饶是我喜欢他超过钱尼100倍，仍然有点起鸡皮疙瘩，明显是练了好几十遍的律师套话，专门弄来吸引女性选民的，Law and Order/The Practice腔调。

silkworm · Post by **silkworm** » 2004-10-05 23:04

他们辩论完了，他嗖地从椅子里跳起来，抓住钱尼的手猛摇。钱尼陷在椅子里，站不起来似的。

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-06 6:27

我发现我不能看这些辩论. 昨晚才看了几分钟就不停地对着电视机嚷嚷: Liar! Liar! Where ARE the WMDs??? Where ARE the nuclear weapons?! 气得看不下去了, 只好上床看书.

Knowing · Post by **Knowing** » 2004-10-06 7:24

John Edwards 很假，我不喜欢他。哎，无限怀念的想 Howard Dean

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-06 7:35

I like Howard Dean too, and he really came out to oppose the Iraqi War. The problem is that the American people cannot handle genuine honest politicians. It makes me sick. No wonder Aaaanold was elected as the governor.

Knowing · Post by **Knowing** » 2004-10-06 7:41

Howard Dean is so straight forward on most of the issues that they do not think he would actually have a chance. Snowball in hell.

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-06 7:46

People complain about politicians lie to them and blame their own low voter turnout on this, but they don't bother to find out about what's really going on and they cannot handle the truth. When someone comes out and TELL them the truth, they kick him down and laugh at him. No wonder U.S. politics is filled with lies and fakeness. NZ also has voluntary (versus mandatory) voting, but their voter turnout rate is above 80%.

I'm thinking about buying the new book by Jon Stewart and co. I hate news nowadays, and The Daily Show with Jon Stewart is the only place where they don't bullshit you.

helenClaire · Post by **helenClaire** » 2004-10-06 8:16

曾经因为做项目的关系，一段时间里常常和Charlotte, NC那边的人挂在电话上，他们说话如唱melody,好听得很。昨晚Edwards的口音听着真亲切。可是现代社会了，没有奇迹没有碰巧，每个细节都是推敲筹划过的，我怀疑他打浓重乡谈也是故意的。

伊拉克的话题我自动tune out了，其它也大部份睡过去了。感兴趣的gay marriage, 失望地发现民主党也是不赞成的；Edwards提到的所谓gay couples应得的benefits, --“探望病人，安排葬礼”？这些是real issues吗？我困惑。现在稍微像样的大公司医疗保险可以保到domestic partner, 在我看来更有实质性内容。
关心的医疗费用上涨问题，debate format的关系双方都不可能列出详细计划，这个话题拿来攻击执政党太容易了，事实是几十年里无论谁执政，医疗费用都上涨，医疗保险都没有做到全民性，攻击的话我不想听，倒想听听谁有具体有效的解决方案。
trial lawyers and malpractice insurance, Edwards提出的独立专家审核方案，有趣，但我怀疑它的有效性。
两个候选人都比较沉闷，还是John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Collin Powell一类的人物比较有意思。

tiffany · Post by **tiffany** » 2004-10-06 8:32

gay marriage 这种事情，谁都不敢公开的赞成。有意思的是事后大家们分析谁赢谁输，共和党说共和党赢了，民主党说民主党赢了。我觉得这个辩论比总统辩论还是好看多了，helen你看了snl了没？笑死我了，那两个人装口音装的真像。
不过说到诚实的政治家，多么的8现实，当年的fdr也是使过手段的------有时候我觉得一个搞政治的人能干成哈事情才是比较重要的。

silkworm · Post by **silkworm** » 2004-10-06 9:42

tiffany wrote:有时候我觉得一个搞政治的人能干成哈事情才是比较重要的。

上一期的TIME杂志，有一篇设想如果Howard Dean是民主党候选人，那布什他们就不能攻击flip-flop了。我拿给我老板看，逗乐儿---我老板是Dean的热切拥趸，Dean的sticker贴在汽车玻璃上，Dean输了以后还不肯灰溜溜地剥掉。我老板看了那文章，果然热血中年了一番。

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2004-10-06 9:48

John Edwards 很假很早作，我也不喜欢他
我真想念John Cain
还有昨天两个人，一个惨白，一个rosy，都是Paul Begoun的书里挑选粉底霜的反面教材嘛

Jun · Post by **Jun** » 2004-10-06 10:20

General you meant John McCain?

I used to tell people if McCain had run I'd vote Republican against my usual party line.

花差花差小将军 · Post by **花差花差小将军** » 2004-10-06 11:14

4阿4阿

我还见过他真人的，当年他竞选还没有退出的时候，在New Hampshire的一家Courtyard旅馆，他和助手们都在吃早饭，我就在他们的旁边桌子，心里一直抖振要不要讨签名，后来还是没有kiss up表达自己的敬仰之情如滔滔江水。后来每次激动地祥林嫂一番说啊当年我们还在一家旅馆待过，听众无不动容，暧昧的嬉笑