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如果有一种能消除记忆的科技，你是否愿意消除记忆中让你痛彻心肺的她或他？



◆ 片　　名： 英文：Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
港译：无痛失恋
台译：王牌冤家
其他：美丽心灵的永恒阳光
◆ 导　　演：Michel Gondry　
◆ 编　　剧：<a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0442109/">编剧Charlie Kaufman</a>
◆ 主　　演：吉姆・凯利（Jim Carrey）　凯特・温斯莱特（Kate Winslet）



这部片子我期待了很久，据说金凯利特特去做了整容手术将脸削的瘦一点，以便可以使自己在镜头看上去忧郁些。

整部片子看了两遍，主要原因是开头比较慢，虽然两条主线清楚，可是细节部分松散，加之梦境和现实不断切换，深夜看的时候精神又不大集中，于是第二天早上又看了一遍。字幕出现的时候，我的眼角有点湿润。







金非常好，也许不是整容的原因，但是他的忧郁恰到好处。我曾经不太喜欢他，他的面具，他那部冒牌天神，他的表演一度让我觉得无聊，可是这部电影成功改变了我对他的看法，乔尔的脆弱，无奈，深情被他演绎的深深触动人心。

Jim Carrey的出场，颓废、忧郁，让所有对搞笑的期待落空。他的表情敏感而茫然，萧索的晚冬，站台熙攘但形单影只，一个人喃喃低语，有种莫名的辛酸。

长达17分钟的序幕之后，片头在黑暗中姗姗而现。低回的旋律，颤抖的双手，你所不熟悉的Jim Carrey掩面呜咽、泪盈于睫，即使再铁石心肠，至此也不能不动容。



爱情永远是甜蜜与绝望相随，两个相爱的人，经历热烈的燃烧之后，渐渐趋于平淡，以至于吃饭时相对无言。然后一切结束，两个人之间的所有成为过去。此时乔尔选择了记忆消除来缓释痛苦。问题是，一个曾十分熟悉的人如果突然被从记忆中完全删除了，那么是不是真的就可以不再与这个‘陌生人’联系了呢？当一段美丽感情结束，是否真的愿意接受自己的记忆被删除？是否可以承受那些后果？


午夜，记忆清除诊所的医生开始工作。似梦似醒中，乔尔不断游走于心灵和现实间，他的回忆化为闪动的镜头，曾经的钟爱，犹豫，甜蜜，埋怨，心疼，愤怒，好与不好，爱与不爱，恨与不恨，那些并不被刻意记住的关于温暖，关于甜蜜，关于爱，关于承诺，虽然隐藏在记忆的深处，喷薄而出，拥有无穷的爆发力。彼此共同度过的五味杂陈的时光：他们的相识、他们的冒险、他们的海誓山盟、他们的鸡毛蒜皮争吵……记忆中的可蕾婷依旧是那么熟悉的味道：她的活力、她的捣蛋、她的小脾气、她的坏习惯，她的彩色头发，她的花纹小内裤……乔尔在机器的刺激下，幸福、同时也是痛苦地挣扎在美好而辛酸的记忆当中：难道把克蕾婷在生活中的痕迹全都毁灭，清理出大脑，就真的就可以忘记？




硬性遗忘，就像用刚削好的铅笔在纸上狠命的留下铅印后再狠命的用橡皮擦去一样，可惜，留的时候太用劲，擦的时候即便是弄破了纸也不可能无影无踪。乔尔终于明白：“You can erase someone from your mind. Getting them out of your heart is another story”


“我要留住这段记忆”的声音驱使着乔尔奋力奔跑，与“洗脑机”抢夺着残存的断片。在查理士河美丽的冰面上，乔尔终于觉醒，呼唤着渐渐远去的女友。这两个在现实中的冤家，似乎在各自的记忆中找到了坦诚心灵、沟通彼此的方法。





感谢上帝让人拥有记忆的能力。不管是悲伤的，尴尬的，愉快的，还是不重要的记忆，只要还拥有着，就是一种幸福。因为多年后想起，它们都会变得珍贵。


Quote a review by John Ulmer (copyrights goes to him):

There is a very deep message in "Sunshine," and it is arguably aufman's deepest film to date. Love and romance and memories of both have rarely been examined as thought-provokingly and tenderly as they are in this wonderful motion picture. The movie has a very profound message that all viewers should pay attention to. There are many small intricacies in the film, surely picked up on more thoroughly on repeat viewings, and the entire construction of the movie is completely enthralling and intelligent. I saw two people leave the rather empty theater during the screening I attended. It tanked in the US and I predict it will do the same in the UK, which is a shame, because this is the smartest film of 2004 and has the most to say about our lives than any other film this year. While everyone flocks to see the new Denzel Washington action movie, "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" is forgotten, which is quite depressing -- people would rather spend their money on forgettable entertainment than view something unique that has something important at its core.


（剧本的网址http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=spotless_mind)


《Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind》就在这种理想与现实的交接中被精心打造而成，片名则摘取了Alexander Pope蒲伯的长诗Eloisa to Abelard http://www.monadnock.net/poems/eloisa.html

"How happy is the blameless vestal's lot

The world forgetting, by the world forgot

Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind

Each prayer accepted and each wish resigned."

"纯洁无暇的人是多么的幸福呀

遗忘世界的人，世界也把他遗忘

无暇心灵中的阳光永恒灿烂

每一个祈求都被接受，每一个愿望都得以实现"

---------------- Alexander Pope

Actually, there are several pretty promising drugs that may potentially mute, if not erase, bad memories being researched. It is indeed not a far fetched idea. I suspect once available such drugs will have a large enough market.

Me too. Somehow reminds me of the eraser gun Tommy Lee Jones holds in MIB

How can drugs detect which bit of memory is 'bad'? Would it have 'customization' where users can pick from a number of check-boxes then say: here, based on so and so calculation, this is the kind of memory I would like to erase?

我没看电影已经觉得电影是很煽情的那种了

不一定，有两个人向我老推荐这个电影儿过，一个人觉得我老文艺，不能算；但是另外一个人十分了解我老不论看哈电影儿都能看成轻喜剧的本质的，这斯也说好看，所以，不一定哦。

那你先去看回来保证不煽情我才有可能去看，开瑞演的那个文艺片不善清呢，track record不容乐观阿

金开利演的truman show可是我心爱的电影之一啊。我觉得不煽情也不搞笑。

现在有种药已经发现有效果. 当你遇到trauma的时候马上吃一粒, 过后想起就不会太难受或者记不太清楚.

这部片子是Charlie Kaufman写的, 应该不会太差. 他那个Adaptation真是好玩啊, mind-bending and funny.

还有一种药, 吃了可以几天不睡觉都清醒的, 在网上就可以买到.

我觉着jim carry（或者是所有的喜剧演员）在努力朝tom hanks的演义方向发展： 喜剧－>正剧－>轻喜正剧。从truman show开始。

说起喜剧转正剧的演员, Jamie Foxx从很滥的电视sketch comedy干起, 现在成了颇受重视的正剧演员了, 最近在电视电影里演个死刑犯, 又因为演Ray Charles广受好评.

JUN说到这种药，很适合在赶死线或考前突击时服用啊。:-) 不过这清醒还得保证思路照样敏捷才行。

truman show我就是觉得很善轻啊

Who made Truman Show? Wasn't it Peter Weir the Australian guy? I thought his Witness and Caligary (?? starring a very young Mel Gibson) were also very shan qing.

btw. 最近才知道jim carry 原来是加拿大人，刚加入美国国籍。理由是”这个国家激发和实现我的梦（理）想。

我悄悄的同意一下儿花3，那个trueman show4煽情的。

问题在于你得知道那是trauma啊, 比如正爱得死去活来, 如何知道下一秒钟就要拜拜.

Jun wrote:现在有种药已经发现有效果. 当你遇到trauma的时候马上吃一粒, 过后想起就不会太难受或者记不太清楚.

Jun wrote:Who made Truman Show? Wasn't it Peter Weir the Australian guy? I thought his Witness and Caligary (?? starring a very young Mel Gibson) were also very shan qing.

The Truman Show, (1998)
Directed by Peter Weir
Written by Andrew Niccol

Peter also directed Green Card (1990) Dead Poets Society (1989) and Witness (1985) , all very shan qing. (as I view it long and shanqing)

while Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is short shanqing, 还没有意识到煽情，就结束了。前半个小时我在努力弄懂what is going on，然后一个小时开始找线索，最后半个小时明白了正准备感动一下就结束了。

不过还是推荐，因为男女主角的表现，还有摄影什么的都很好看。还是要给小金同学转型的机会阿，做人要厚道。。。

不懂．

一粒药，吃下去，马上发出护体神光，从此无踹无马，才好叫灵丹妙药。

不能避开踹马，光破坏记忆力，被马踹个半死却不记得，那么就算没被马踹过？
苦楚肉身一一挨过，然后，抚着伤疤论当年的权利却被剥夺了。
再说真有大苦大难　（布什连任了，这世界可说不准），从奥斯威辛出来我要伸张正义，　＂过后想起就不会太难受或者记不太清楚＂可不成．

这算哪一门子的治病救人。开药的医生倒是很难被病人complain是真的．　　

我并不见得支持抹除记忆，但也不得不承认这个诱惑太大了。换个假设吧，如果有种药能让人忘却一切忧愁烦恼，成天乐呵呵地歌舞升平，又不会象鸦片ecstacy或冰片那样对健康有害，你吃吗？我问过很多人，几乎每个人都说那当然啦。这个市场肯定是大大的。无他，人性耳。

Still holds no magic over me.

I'd like to have the choice of being a princess or a bitch. And I may not always choose princess.

Happyness is so overrated. Who says being happy all the time is normal? And who says happy people are better citizens or more productive workers?

If you want happiness, make that a choice, a purpose, not a product of something (which is substance-dependency), nor a product from lack of pain (remember the princess on the pea?).

Some most whiny people I met were ex-princess who lost their pot or found their first pea.

Maomi, you sound almost like Dr. Laura Schlesinger...

I agree with your statement that "Happiness is overrated." Really, Americans are taking this "pursuit of happiness" business too far.

OTOH, this is probably because I'm a hopeless cosmic brunette and natural-born pessimist. I can see why people in general prefer to live in ignorant bliss, but I am at an age and place in which I am pretty comfortable with being not so blissful all the time.

i saw "the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" on an intercontinental flight, coincidentally at a time when i was thinking about many of the same questions. i like the movie; it's clever for sure, but it's got that genuine and tender empathy as well as the acknowledgement of our most fundamental limitations that gives it substance.

i'm fascinated by movies on memories, at once the strongest and flimsiest evidence of our existence. i'm struck by two other themes in the movie though.

in the beginning of the movie, joel meets clementine and there's instant mutual attraction, but neither knows that they have been lovers before. in other words, they are about to repeat what they have already experienced, no doubt with the same happiness and pain and ending in the same bitter quarrels that drove them apart in the first place. how much are we destined to fall in love with the same person or type again and again, and why so? what are hopes of change and self-improvement but myths?

the movie portrays the bitter end to their relationship in convincing detail, but somehow i feel that all the mistrust and fighting obscure the much more common nemesis to love and affection--that is, their gradual withering and reasonless demise. people simply drift apart, and nothing is sadder than that.

美女说的真好.

我不文艺也不喜欢腻腻歪歪的东西，可这是我最心爱的一部电影。这是一个关于MEMORY
的故事。很久以前看过一部关于机器人的电影 BLADE RUNNER，里面他们给 机器人输入关于故乡，童年，家 和爱人的记忆后，机器人慢慢忘记自己是机器人而相信自己是人。
又人说 you are what you eat, you are what you speak,,,,这个故事好像是说
you are what you remember...memories is all we have...

Jun: I take that as a compliment. You must mean her advocations on taking personal responsibility on life and behavior, not her embrace of religious faith.

Ravaged:
That part of plot rings "no pain no gain" in my philosophy. A bad memorie is not necessarily a bad thing.

Yes, Maomi, I meant the no-nonsense, tough-love attitude. I have not followed her in recent years and am not too familiar with her religious views. Is she a radical fundamentalist like 60% of Americans? If so, I apologize for comparing you to her...

you are what you remember...memories is all we have...

怪不得象我这样记性奇差的人老觉得生活空虚.
米女说得真好. 马上把这电影加到我的单子上.
No pain, no gain和好了伤疤忘了疼都是人性. 哪怕有记性也没用. 虽然你爱的不是同一个人了, 但是保不其还是会犯同样的错误. 不是有统计说离过婚的人再婚又离的比例很高么?

yeah maomitou, i know what you mean, but still i think that when it comes to love, it seems that no amount of conscious learning, reforming, or purging can make us love or not love someone. and that's comforting. :)