恶人谷

Most of us who are sitting here talking about the world and the meritocracy for people to get ahead, you know, we think hey, we worked hard, we got there. If you start to think about the people who are working harder than ... I, for instance ... and start to think that they have real intelligence and real moral judgments, [and] are extraordinary people in many, many ways, then you have to say, 'Gosh, did I really deserve to get here?' Or maybe there are some things at work in deciding who gets to be society's winners and who gets to be society's losers that don't have to do with merit.

tiffany wrote:it's not a matter of who derserving what, it's a matter of who his/her dad/mom is

Knowing wrote:Obviously we all believe we are working hard while poor people are just chilling out in their safety net.

tiffany wrote:比如我老人家，虽然说我老现在做到薄厚跟我爹娘致力教育密切相关，但是，我老确实也很努力来着，我老，我自己觉得，确实比有些人还是聪明些的。

笑嘻嘻 wrote:嗯，那这个访谈是绝对不能听的。

笑嘻嘻 wrote:那如果反过来想呢？如果不努力不聪明没有优点，会不会一直从出生的阶层或快或慢地一直往下滑？

Knowing wrote:你跟你爹妈的教育程度之间又没什么质的变化。

Knowing wrote:啊？听说facebook 很难进的。

dropby wrote:对，我忘了说运气顶顶重要了。肯定有不少当初拒过Facebook的offer或者跳槽到其他地方的程序员现在正在吐血呢。你说为啥Facebook的程序员就deserve to be multi-millionaire呢？他们肯定不见得比其他程序员更聪明更努力更有远见啊，大家都不过是讨生活而已。

Jun wrote:Tiff 引的话真有诗意。我想起雷马克有篇小说（不是凯旋门）里写个从一战活着回来的人说，身边战友被炸死，想的只是＂幸好不是我＂。总之我听了这个访问的反应就是这样的。

Knowing wrote:说明这人没远见。

Knowing wrote:冒险是必要不充分条件

有facebook offer 的人几乎不可能只有一个offer.至少我没见过这种人。

我有个同事大学跟mark 一个班的，当时mark 找人一起干这个，他不愿意，说不想跟jerk 一起工作。 貌似他也没有吐血。人要有自知之明。我一边看steve jobs 的自传一边想，靠，就算我跟他一起开创了苹果，早就受不了这个合作人跑路了。

豪情 wrote:这个不就是中产阶级(父母)的恶梦么. 就怕自己或者孩子一不小心就赤脚了.
其实现在美国贫富分化这么厉害, 这个可能性很大. 我早说了, 虎妈能火, 不是因为华人支持或者批评她, 而是不分族裔普遍的焦虑. 我现在在看NURTURE SHOCK, 东北部孩子每天比二十年前少睡一个小时, 举例就是一个初中女孩, 每天只睡六小时, 经常BREAK DOWN. 医生建议多睡一小时, 父母却不能冒放弃各种舞蹈音乐课之一的风险.