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Zadie Smith on feminism

Posted: 2012-12-13 13:36
by Jun
自己绞尽脑汁也说不清,Zadie Smith 一句就说清楚了,难怪人家是著名作家呢:
I was brought up with the sense that I was absolutely no different from my brothers. I went to college thinking I was absolutely no different from the men in college. But that's not true. I'm fundamentally different. The problem was not being able to understand difference and equality at the same time. It's something that we can't seem to comprehend. You can't state difference and also state equality. We have to state sameness to understand equality. It's a mistake.
source: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/art/blog/20 ... smith.html

Re: Zadie Smith on feminism

Posted: 2012-12-13 14:15
by tiffany
actually, I have seen a poster or something promoting feminism, it is a guy holding up a posterboard, the board said I support/need feminism because I want to knit/stitch (or something traditionally women's work) without being called a girl.

Everybody is different in essence, it just convenient to group them and label them. Actually I am fine with being grouped, as long as people are ready to admit that there are things about me that don't conform to the stereotype of my group. Guess that is asking for too much?

Re: Zadie Smith on feminism

Posted: 2012-12-13 14:25
by dropby
我觉得主要问题在于按不同标准划组的时候只看那个标准。比如需要把我划到程序员的组里,就把我当个程序员看待,忘掉我的女性身份就可以了。

Re: Zadie Smith on feminism

Posted: 2012-12-13 17:12
by Jun
没什么,我就是想起来,每次说起 feminism 的时候必然有一大堆的辩论 “男人女人生理不同,所以没法讲平等” ,“男人女人生理不同,所以不可能同工同酬”,“男人女人生理不同,所以女人没有成就是自然现象” 云云。仿佛有很多人都是一同时说起 difference 和 equality 就死机了,仿佛现在的 inequality 状态是必然而且无法改变的天经地义,因为男女之不同。

半个多世纪之前有生物学家用果蝇试验论证 “男人喜欢广撒种子,滥交是进化之必然;女人喜欢被动接受,天性专一是进化之必然” ,这个理论也被各种后人试验证明未必是天然的生理的现象,现在甚至有科学家证明当初那个试验本身就做得不对。但是这个说法已根深蒂固无法灭除了。