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冬季电影

Post by simonsun » 2009-10-28 3:30

今年真是不少好看电影。早先的Up,The Hurt Locker,Inglorious Bastards等等。今晚看了MJ的纪录片This Is It,是伦敦演唱会排练的剪辑,真是炫到极点了!太可惜就这样走了。

冬季的片表排出来,令人期待的更多。Coen兄弟的新片A Serious Man,Viggo主演的The Road,一堆大牌男星的The Men Who Stare at Goats,一堆大牌女星的Nine,偶像版的胡二麻斯,Peter Jackson的The Lovely Bones,Scoresese的Shutter Island⋯⋯几乎每周都有,真是看得眼花撩乱。 :mrgreen:
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Knowing » 2009-10-28 7:57

我想看还没看的有:少女片coco before chanel. 少年片但是我作为HC 少女片看待的the boys are back
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by tiffany » 2009-10-28 8:13

shutter island已经拍完啦?我还是不会去看的说。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by 幻儿 » 2009-10-28 9:59

很期待《The Road》和《The Lovely Bones》.
我对Coco before Chanel很失望。我以为是女强人成功之前的奋斗史,结果是小女生的情爱史。这也罢了,关键是Coco在里头只有一件衣服好看,其他我觉得都好难看啊 :roll:
我想看但没看的是The Informant和Julie and Julia。等出了碟再说吧。

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Re: 冬季电影

Post by silkworm » 2009-10-28 10:12

我也在等The informant的碟。看Julie and Julia的时候看了trailer,笑死了。后来又听This America Life重播有关这个的一集,更加好奇了。
影评纷纷说An Education好,可惜只是小范围放映。

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Re: 冬季电影

Post by putaopi » 2009-10-28 10:29

Pedro Amodova 《Broken Embraces》
<Pirate Radio>

前几天在电影院里看到了trailer,很期待这两部。Penelope Cruz在Amodova的手里总是美得流光溢彩的,连电影配乐都一如既往地简约而精致,冬天里视觉上也需要大量的西班牙色彩。

等着看<An Education>的时候,看了一眼Coco Before Chanel的结尾,真是少女励志片儿:上了年纪的Chanel坐在楼梯上,看模特们在身边鱼贯而出,一付千帆过尽的寂寞神色。说实话有点儿失望,不太想去电影院看完全本了。

<An Education>是小制作的片子,全靠演员的演技撑着。女主角非常好,就是面容不像十六岁的少女,岁数太大了。很喜欢整个片子灰蓝色的色调,像雾的颜色。

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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Knowing » 2009-10-28 10:38

啊我也想看an education.
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by putaopi » 2009-10-28 10:46

An Education, 跟亦舒早期的小说非常相似:功课优异的美少女被有钱有风度的中年男子诱惑......

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Post by Knowing » 2009-10-28 10:47

啊,那我不看了,倒胃的说。我还以为是风度翩翩的骗子给贵族少女下套的故事呢。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by putaopi » 2009-10-28 10:49

嗯,我觉得是个一般的电影,影评好可能是因为女主角演得不错。

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Post by Knowing » 2009-10-28 10:50

不是男主角演的好么?
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Post by putaopi » 2009-10-28 11:04

演员都不错,我对女主角印象深些,摄影也好。故事是完全Predictable的。亦舒好像是在六十年代在伦敦?那时可能就是这种调调,她深受影响。 中间还有拉斐尔前派的画作隆重出场, Edward Burne-jones的,好像是这幅画(也可能是另外一幅穿得更少的,记不清了):

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Post by tiffany » 2009-10-28 11:11

这画儿够妖异!
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Post by putaopi » 2009-10-28 11:15

象征女主角的sexual awakening :-) 也可能是这幅更sensual的,前后出现过两幅,我都搞混了. 反正两幅画的模特都是画家的希腊老情人。他们那一帮子都是情人左拥右抱的,越老越爱慕青春美女,放在这部电影里很切题。

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Re: 冬季电影

Post by ffP » 2009-10-28 13:51

Stuttgart美术馆现在正有Edward Burne-jones特展,得找个周末去看看。

这周有小影院放王家卫新版的东邪西毒,纠结了会儿,还是决定去看看,当怀旧。

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Post by tiffany » 2009-10-28 14:25

我觉得还是第一副画切题,明显是老男引诱少女;第二张倒象少女追着骚扰少男似的
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Post by Knowing » 2009-10-28 15:40

少女追着骚扰少男似的
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by tiffany » 2009-10-29 8:27

:mrgreen:

模特儿都是一批人是吧?我说怎么脸都长得差不多呢
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Post by putaopi » 2009-10-29 17:36

早期的模特都是同一批,后来就各自有自己的御用模特了。不过这个拉斐尔前派兄弟帮是以乱爱著名的小团体,关系特别交错复杂。

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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Jun » 2009-10-31 13:35

今天去看了 An Education. 很喜欢。

好像谁说了一句结尾画蛇添足,我倒是觉得结尾是必要的一笔。

Peter Sarsgaard 的英国口音大概是美国演员能整出来的最可信的,看了一会儿居然忘记他是美国人。不过他的角色要求他比较油腻,而不是可爱性感吸引观众。

表面上象亦舒小说,实际上并不太,没人要死要活的,也没有人被所谓真爱蒙了心和眼。看完了之后倒想看看原作 (英国记者 Lynne Barber 的回忆录) 。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Knowing » 2009-10-31 16:37

我昨天看了this is it. 更觉得MJ 可惜。电影里他并没有药物成瘾语无伦次的样子,思路唱歌说话都很正常。虽然瘦体力很不错,跳舞时完全看不出是五十岁的人。啊,那些伴舞的年青孩子跳的真棒!
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Post by Jun » 2009-10-31 17:23

我也看见了 Broken Embraces 的广告片儿。很奇怪,Almodovar 的片儿我是看完就记不清里面发生了什么事儿。虽然总是插个挺小报的段落什么的,但事后一般只记得人物:打扮成女人的穿黑衣裙的高个子年轻男人,火辣辣的独力拖走尸体的单身妈妈,有漂亮老婆的半身不遂男人,看皮纳包殊舞蹈而相遇的二男,自私和破坏哥哥幸福的弟弟,如此等等,至于他们干了什么,经历了什么,却没有印象。
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Post by Knowing » 2009-11-01 8:56

他的片儿是有点,前后弯拐的大,故事不太那啥。如果换个人编,我都不信。但是他就能把很荒谬的事情编的好像很合理。 :mrgreen:
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by simonsun » 2009-11-01 15:02

Jun wrote:我也看见了 Broken Embraces 的广告片儿。很奇怪,Almodovar 的片儿我是看完就记不清里面发生了什么事儿。虽然总是插个挺小报的段落什么的,但事后一般只记得人物:打扮成女人的穿黑衣裙的高个子年轻男人,火辣辣的独力拖走尸体的单身妈妈,有漂亮老婆的半身不遂男人,看皮纳包殊舞蹈而相遇的二男,自私和破坏哥哥幸福的弟弟,如此等等,至于他们干了什么,经历了什么,却没有印象。
阿莫多瓦的所有女主角,都是一个女主角,她们的故事也都是一个故事啊!(literally...)
昨日重看volver,今日又借来flower of my secret,作接力状。感想之一:almodovar也有“瓦女郎”。先是marisa paredes,然后penélope cruz。好比巩利来过章子怡⋯⋯

里头有一段。爱情小说作家Leo跟她的出版商聊天,出版商不解Leo为何转变文风:

No, I mean, why change if sales are good? Leo, sweetie, you forget our collection is called “True Love”. A novel about a mother who discovers her daughter’s killed her father who had tried to rape her. And so no one finds out… hides the body in the cold-storage room of a neighbor’s restaurant?

Ding,可不就是volver的故事!Foms拍于1995年,volver则是2006——也许是10年后临时起意、借题发挥,也许是10年前,预先便打好了一段腹稿?
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Jun » 2009-11-01 17:11

simonsun wrote: 感想之一:almodovar也有“瓦女郎”。先是marisa paredes,然后penélope cruz。好比巩利来过章子怡⋯⋯
至少瓦女郎们不必跟导演睡觉即可提供灵感。 :mrgreen:

我觉得他电影儿里那些人物就是他的街坊们,从小到大,大院儿里的男男女女,周围的亲朋好友,以及大家叽叽咕咕流传的家长里短,总之跟街头小报那种 community news 差不多。让我想起小时候跟外婆坐在弄堂里乘凉,听一干老婆婆 breathlessly 讲谁家男人打老婆,谁家闹鬼,好精彩。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Knowing » 2009-11-13 9:08

nine 终于要出来了。是rob marshall 导演的音乐片!我要看!
还有个Pirate Radio 看上去很逗,有Philip Seymour Hoffman, Bill Nighy,jun 准想看。
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Post by Jun » 2009-11-13 9:18

Knowing wrote:nine 终于要出来了。是rob marshall 导演的音乐片!我要看!
还有个Pirate Radio 看上去很逗,有Philip Seymour Hoffman, Bill Nighy,jun 准想看。
Pirate Radio isn't quite my cup of tea. I am not a big fan of the director, and the story sounds suspiciously like "A care-free American rides in and saves stiff-upper-lipped Brits from themselves" kind of cliche. The trailer looks a bit funny but doesn't click with me.

There seems to be a rush of recent movies with nostalgia for the 60s. Like Don Draper said, "Nostalgia in Greek means old wound. It's delicate, and potent."

And Phil Hoffman is not trying to sport an English accent.

(I'm waiting for CAVA to see "An Education" and provide a more accurate assessment of Peter Sarsgaard's accent.)
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Post by CAVA » 2009-11-13 9:25

最近重新发现了Anthony Minghella,看了他的访谈非常仰慕,真是后知后觉啊。又感叹这么有才华的人去世得太早。Nine是他的编剧,Minghella还导演过Inspector Morse,制作过No.1 Lady's Detective Agency和The Reader。English Patient, The Talented Mr Ripley和Cold Mountain更不用说了。

海盗电台的原名叫The Boat that Rocked,我已经先睹过了,不错,但比不上Richard Curtis从前的四婚一葬和真爱至上。

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Post by CAVA » 2009-11-13 9:27

我们这里电影院到现在还不放An Education,真怀疑他们不放了。等碟也是一样的。

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Post by silkworm » 2009-11-13 9:33

海盗电台的音乐好么?Richard Curtiss也跟Anthony Migella一样,经常出电影原声带的。
最近应该要放了,等我将养好身体赶完病假拖下来的工就去看!

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Post by CAVA » 2009-11-13 9:37

音乐是60年代的摇滚,没那么抒情,不过挺好听的。

你病了?要多保重啊。

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Post by CAVA » 2009-11-13 9:49

想起来了,土豆优酷上都有海盗电台。

我最喜欢Kenneth Branagh的卡通官员,和Bill Nighy的酷船长。

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Post by 星光 » 2009-11-13 10:05

pirate radio就是the boat that rocked吧?
这个片子非常非常好看,十分爆笑,而且音乐很棒,如果是摇滚歌迷更是不可错过。
说到这儿我决定得down下来再看一遍才行~

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Post by CAVA » 2009-11-13 10:52

为着Jun的缘故去瞄了一眼An Education的预告片,Peter Sarsgaard的发音不错,好过Renée Zellweger的Bridget Jones。Sarsgaard有足够的charming耶。

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Post by Jun » 2009-11-13 11:08

CAVA wrote:为着Jun的缘故去瞄了一眼An Education的预告片,Peter Sarsgaard的发音不错,好过Renée Zellweger的Bridget Jones。Sarsgaard有足够的charming耶。
Thank you. :kiss:

He is very "oily" in this movie and at a few places bordering on :vomit: . I guess there is no other way to approach this topic.
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Post by simonsun » 2009-11-14 17:36

Jun wrote:Thank you. :kiss:
He is very "oily" in this movie and at a few places bordering on :vomit: . I guess there is no other way to approach this topic.
Jun我今天碰巧看到了你签名档的原文。真是好奇怪的双关,把我笑死了。 :mrgreen:
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Post by Knowing » 2009-11-14 23:26

我今天看了Precious, 讲一个bronx 黑人十几岁女孩被她妈abuse 的故事,据说拍的很真实。真是要很有勇气才看的下去,但是看着看着最后又觉得还是很uplifting.
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Post by simonsun » 2009-11-15 2:22

Knowing wrote:我今天看了Precious, 讲一个bronx 黑人十几岁女孩被她妈abuse 的故事,据说拍的很真实。真是要很有勇气才看的下去,但是看着看着最后又觉得还是很uplifting.
那个导演上fresh air,说自己也被虐待。后来出头了,21岁办护理中心赚了几个米,然后成功转型为导演,在palm beach和boys爬梯得昏天黑地,听得人一愣愣的。

这个剧找演员也是很有故事的。
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Post by Jun » 2009-11-15 9:52

小K 真有文化,这种诉苦片儿我都不要看。
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Post by Knowing » 2009-11-15 16:44

什么诉苦片儿,这是一个先苦后甜,奋发向上的励志片。
我听了那集新鲜空气,西门孙你就注意了人家挣了几个米在棕榈沙滩跟男孩们花天酒地开派对,没听到然后平底一声雷一对孪生子落到他身上从此他的荒唐生活结束当起了爹?你倒真是选择性记忆。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by putaopi » 2009-11-16 15:54

跟漂亮男孩开party如何能导致双生子呢?我很疑惑地问。

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Post by simonsun » 2009-11-16 16:01

Knowing wrote:你倒真是选择性记忆。
哗!我完全没有听到那个! :BloodyK:
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Post by Knowing » 2009-11-16 16:06

The twin were his brothers biological children. His brother went to prison before the twin were born. his brother's gf, the mother of the twins, dumped the babies in front of his monther, the grandma's doorstep. so he adopted those kids.
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Post by putaopi » 2009-11-16 16:20

好复杂!谢谢小K解说。。。这个故事可以再拍一部电影了。

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Post by simonsun » 2009-11-18 1:54

Knowing wrote:什么诉苦片儿,这是一个先苦后甜,奋发向上的励志片。
我听了那集新鲜空气,西门孙你就注意了人家挣了几个米在棕榈沙滩跟男孩们花天酒地开派对,没听到然后平底一声雷一对孪生子落到他身上从此他的荒唐生活结束当起了爹?你倒真是选择性记忆。
我一边下棋一边听,就漏了这一段!今天开车重听一边,发现这个人真有趣!不过我觉得他说的很多东西都要打个折,因为一听口气就知道是个典型抓马queen! :mrgreen:
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by simonsun » 2009-11-20 22:14

almodovar的片子扭腰有放了。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by mirrorflower » 2009-11-21 17:31

simonsun wrote:almodovar的片子扭腰有放了。
broken embraces?

刚陪人理发的时候看到time上写了一篇。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Knowing » 2009-11-28 21:28

看完了an education, 回家第一件事就是八卦的查了自传作者lynn barber 的生平。上大学时伊颇随便乱睡了两年,毕业后给《阁楼》杂志写了七年,嫁了个艺术家,回家生了俩娃,又出来工作,写过几本书,好像是个名记者,嗯,生活的很丰富多彩嘛,我替她高兴。
这电影挺好看的,着重刻画少女时代那种焦虑:一切都需要从书本上诗歌里间接的幻想,真正的生活等啊等怎么还没开始?好不容易突然天上掉下个成年人带着大开眼界,兴奋的要命。peter Sarsgaard 的角色还挺真实的,对少女不是真爱也是情难自控,好比小偷见了值钱东西没人看着就忍不住下手。少女父母对她那么放任粗看奇怪,仔细想并不是,他们都是老实勤恳的中下产阶级,没见市面,peter Sarsgaard 这种老油子哄他们真不比骗少女困难多少。
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Knowing » 2009-11-28 22:40

我迅速的把an education 的摘要扫了一遍,非常幻灭的说,原著自传写的完全不好看,电影脱胎换骨,添了好多丰富的色彩,浪漫美妙多了。

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/ ... ationships
What did I get from Simon? An education - the thing my parents always wanted me to have. I learned a lot in my two years with Simon. I learned about expensive restaurants and luxury hotels and foreign travel, I learned about antiques and Bergman films and classical music. All this was useful when I went to Oxford - I could read a menu, I could recognise a fingerbowl, I could follow an opera, I was not a complete hick. But actually there was a much bigger bonus than that. My experience with Simon entirely cured my craving for sophistication. By the time I got to Oxford, I wanted nothing more than to meet kind, decent, straightforward boys my own age, no matter if they were gauche or virgins. I would marry one eventually and stay married all my life and for that, I suppose, I have Simon to thank.

But there were other lessons Simon taught me that I regret learning. I learned not to trust people; I learned not to believe what they say but to watch what they do; I learned to suspect that anyone and everyone is capable of "living a lie". I came to believe that other people - even when you think you know them well - are ultimately unknowable. Learning all this was a good basis for my subsequent career as an interviewer, but not, I think, for life. It made me too wary, too cautious, too ungiving. I was damaged by my education.
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Re: 冬季电影

Post by Jun » 2009-11-28 22:45

电影里很美妙浪漫么?我没觉得,倒觉得挺猥琐的,连 Peter Sarsgaard 都不能克服那种猥琐感。英国人那么理想主义,把什么都幻想得高不可及。不象法国人那样乐滋滋兴冲冲地过布尔乔亚的人生,不挑剔“姿态好看”。
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