我老也开始钻研儿歌了，最近。还是觉得英文的儿歌不够朗朗上口，对仗工整的音乐节奏感的奉欠。不过儿歌跟宋词似的，本来是拿来唱的，不能跟律诗比抑扬顿挫，我努力安慰自己说。然后有首著名的儿歌：
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
最后两句念起来就那么悲伤。我老不由得有奇怪谁给小朋友写这么哀痛的歌儿来唱，乃查。wiki真是个好地方，什么都有，包括儿歌来源。原来这首儿歌最早是个谜语，Humpty Dumpty在18世纪英国指矮胖而缺乏协调性的人，所以这个谜语的谜底是鸡蛋－－－矮胖，摔破了就拼不回去了。这么说来，就可以想像小朋友们拍着手唱，唱到最后一起尖叫：是鸡蛋！的快乐景象。
可是我老还是忍不住跟贾政正月15看下一代字谜之后似的，压抑不住内心深处莫名的悲哀。
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儿歌
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那首 Ring around the rosey, 是描写鼠役还是黑死病来袭，大家都得病死了,有病尸体要cremation 。现在小孩子们是边唱边拉手转圈，欢快的往地上躺。
Ring around the rosey,
A pocketful of posies.
ashes, ashes.
We all fall down.
"The rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, posies of herbs were carried as protection, sneezing was a final fatal symptom, and 'all fall down' was exactly what happened.""
Ring around the rosey,
A pocketful of posies.
ashes, ashes.
We all fall down.
"The rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, posies of herbs were carried as protection, sneezing was a final fatal symptom, and 'all fall down' was exactly what happened.""
"I'm a high-functioning sociopath; do your research."
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我看的是中文版的，中文版又是从日文翻译过来的，一开始就是“蛋在……”，没有任何悬念。Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
关于给儿童的文学，如果要宣扬其中应该没有任何的道德教化，那么同时也该承认，这里面也并没有什么邪恶神秘的隐喻吧。本来就是些nonsense，硬掰些善恶都像是走极端。
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"Uncle Sheldon"写的儿歌书好看，大部分也都是些胡扯：
偶尔也很暗色调：
这首让我想到王朔的小说《一半是海水，一半是火焰》：一开篇就是燥闷的夏夜，主角和其他待业青年好友翻墙游泳，不知道水池正在放水，结果摔死了一名同伴。很青春华丽的桥段，不知道是不是从这里看来的。FANCY DIVE
by Shel Silverstein
The fanciest dive that ever was dove
Was done by Melissa of Coconut Grove,
She bounced on the board and flew into the air
With a twist of her head and twirl of her hair
She did thirty-four jackknives, backflipped and spun,
Quadruple-gainered, and reached for the sun,
And then somersaulted nine times and a quarter-
And looked down and saw that the pool had no water.
偶尔也很暗色调：
想想很多人小时候也都有所谓“隐形的朋友”，只是当时不以为苦。NOBODY
by Shel Silverstein
Nobody loves me,
Nobody cares,
Nobody picks me peaches and pears.
Nobody offers me candy and Cokes,
Nobody listens and laughs at me jokes.
Nobody helps when I get in a fight,
Nobody does all my homework at night.
Nobody misses me,
Nobody cries,
Nobody thinks I'm a wonderful guy.
So if you ask me who's my best friend, in a whiz,
I'll stand up and tell you that Nobody is.
But yesterday night I got quite a scare,
I woke up and Nobody just wasn't there.
I called out and reached out for Nobody's hand,
In the darkness where Nobody usually stands.
Then I poked through the house, in each cranny and nook,
But I found somebody each place that I looked.
I searched till I'm tired, and now with the dawn,
There's no doubt about it-
Nobody's gone!
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嗯，没错。我记得小时候（<10岁）读过的某童话，穷人夫妇养不起孩子，多次把小孩领到森林里面要丢掉，结果小孩每次都自己找路回家来。故事以小孩子的口吻写出来，最后还是大团圆的结局！问题是我以前读的时候也没觉得什么不对dropby wrote:其实童话和儿歌里经常有惊悚的内容，比如这首鹅妈妈，
“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "... But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien
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Recently discovered a very nice local band called "the dog dander". Its lead singer also writes a lot of kids' songs. Last night his bandmates showed me these videos of him singing with his little girl---everyone's heart was just melted away:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28F8RyT6F_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQYX4pn ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28F8RyT6F_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQYX4pn ... re=related
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谢谢，我记忆缠绕了。呃，这个段子不是《一半一半》的开篇，是《过把瘾就死》的开篇。
安徒生童话教化目的太明显，每个故事差不多都能归结出“意义”之类的。格林童话民间味道重一些，所以暴力软色情的内容多。我国也一样，《西游记》里面有孙悟空摔孩子什么的，都是没被文明影响前的忠实记录，现在看来反而成了异色。王尔德写童话，善恶因果的道德教诲应有尽有，我觉得，可以让年轻读者抵消一些对作者的幻想。
nonsense风的当代儿歌，Shel Silverstein和Dr. Seuss's都是热门作者，不过前者的读者群里也有成年人。我喜欢Shel。据说他五十年代曾为Playboy写过几年的诗画专栏，后来才转行写童书=）。