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Re: Here we go again

Post by Knowing » 2011-03-17 7:38

安慰cava, 等DVD 出来吧。
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Re: Here we go again

Post by Knowing » 2011-03-17 16:51

现在可以回答了。BC的表演也很出色,跟JLM 出奇的一致。你别说,帅哥没了头发化几道疤,小眼睛巨阴险。
你看谁演怪物就会觉得谁更出色,这里怪物角色太出彩了,完全盖过创造者。先入为主我喜欢BC演创造者,那个角色性格比较接近福尔摩斯。
对了,他没全裸,穿了一条肉色紧身内裤。
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Re: Here we go again

Post by Jun » 2011-03-17 18:35

JLM 裸了,BC 不肯么?说不定这就是为什么评论比较偏爱 JLM 的缘故,肯为艺术牺牲。 :mrgreen: :monkey001:
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Re: Here we go again

Post by justforfun » 2011-03-17 18:55

最近刚刚看了一个BBC剧集,The Last Enermy, BC演一个有点神经质的天才数学家,还有洁癖,不堪承受少年成名的压力,跑到中国去搞研究了。故事一开始就是数学家从中国飞回伦敦参加他哥哥的葬礼。他哥哥是在阿富汗当志愿者给炸死了。葬礼的当晚他回到以前的家里,发现还有一个嫂子。结果就来了一场床戏。BC有好几个背面全裸的镜头。我觉得好象没有太多的看头。故事发展下去就是他哥哥是被人暗杀的,跟政府什么细菌,病毒,疫苗阴谋有关,还挺好看的。可惜我只找到两集,不知道后来结局是什么。

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Re: Here we go again

Post by justforfun » 2011-03-17 19:53

Knowing wrote:"你以为,因为我穷,低微、不美、矮小,我就没有灵魂没有心么?你想错了!我的灵魂跟你的一样,我的心也跟你的完全一样!"
前几天还看了BBC的“南方北方”(谷里是不是讨论过了?),就是一个十九世纪初工业革命版的傲慢与偏见。不过剧中男主第一次求婚的时候,女主的台词是“你以为,因为我穷,...,你就可以随便向我求婚了吗?!”我当时的反应就是这不是简爱吗,怎么跑这来了 :-D

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Re: Here we go again

Post by simonsun » 2011-03-17 20:25

Knowing wrote:现在可以回答了。BC的表演也很出色,跟JLM 出奇的一致。你别说,帅哥没了头发化几道疤,小眼睛巨阴险。
你看谁演怪物就会觉得谁更出色,这里怪物角色太出彩了,完全盖过创造者。先入为主我喜欢BC演创造者,那个角色性格比较接近福尔摩斯。
对了,他没全裸,穿了一条肉色紧身内裤。
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Re: Here we go again

Post by Knowing » 2011-03-18 2:13

Jun wrote:JLM 裸了,BC 不肯么?说不定这就是为什么评论比较偏爱 JLM 的缘故,肯为艺术牺牲。 :mrgreen: :monkey001:
我怀疑他平时是全裸,转播为了级别限制才穿裤子,等有人看了JLM版本报告一下。后来造的女怪人,看现场是全裸的,昨天也穿了裤子。
有BC 的剧集?我要看一下!
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Re: Here we go again

Post by Jun » 2011-03-18 13:10

I want to go to New York and see the revival of Tom Stoppard's Arcadia! It sounds so fabulous. :love007:
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/17/134597829 ... en-arcadia
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Re: Here we go again

Post by 幻儿 » 2011-03-19 12:16

Jun wrote:I want to go to New York and see the revival of Tom Stoppard's Arcadia! It sounds so fabulous. :love007:
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/17/134597829 ... en-arcadia
这个我也想去看的。 :wicked:

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Re: Here we go again

Post by Knowing » 2011-03-19 16:00

hmmm, maybe I can catch it in June.
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Re: Here we go again

Post by justforfun » 2011-04-22 11:42

Knowing wrote: 我怀疑他平时是全裸,转播为了级别限制才穿裤子,等有人看了JLM版本报告一下。后来造的女怪人,看现场是全裸的,昨天也穿了裤子。
有BC 的剧集?我要看一下!
昨天去看了转播,JML演怪人,也是穿着小裤衩的。我本来是想看BC演怪人,可惜时间不对。不过JLM的身材确实比BC好多了,也不亏 :-D :-D :-D 。live 转播的效果很不错,摄影的角度和远近都控制得很好,让我等不能去现场的也过了一把瘾。转播前还放了一些排练的花絮,还有Mary Shelley的手稿,以及她在瑞士的家(我以前都不知道作者是谁 :f21: )。

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Re: Here we go again

Post by Jun » 2011-04-23 21:53

今晚去看了。感想如下:



The broadcast of Frankenstein from the NT performance confirmed two things I had always suspected.

The first, watching theater performance on screen, even if it has been recorded live, can never feel the same as watching real people acting on stage. There is something irreplaceably intimate about watching actors breathing in your face, spittle flying. The brain can be fooled to shorten the distance between the audience and the onscreen actors, but not completely.

On the other hand, it was certainly cheaper and easier than flying to London to watch the play at the NT.

The novel Frankenstein I read (attempted to read?) years ago and have always thought overrated. I suspect my lack of appreciation for its significance is rooted in my non-Judeo-Christian upbringing. Someone creates a living being out of dead components. So? The premise fails to arouse the instinctive and deep horror that stirs in the hearts of people with a proper Christian teaching from infancy.

The sacrilegious abomination committed by Victor Frankenstein is "to play God." Ever since Mary's little story captivated the imagination and righteous horror of the western world, every time a biologist or medical researcher has the good fortune of getting his name in the news, he runs the risk of being accused of this horror. Practical and complicated ethical debates about reproductive science and genetics are often dismissed with a simple "don't play God." Is that reason enough to cut off any further thinking or discussion about life science?

But I must admit one of the lessons of Frankenstein is still valid --- One is responsible for his creation. In other words, clean up your own crap. You can't just create a pile of garbage and leave it to stink up the whole neighborhood. Unfortunately, nobody seems to have ever taken this message to heart, from Robert McNamara to Donald Rumsfeld.

In the play, as the novel, the Creature provokes the most sympathy, for he did not ask to be born or to be abandoned into the cruelty of humanity. His revenge on his creator and humanity is justified. Frankenstein, although labeled sympathetically by Mary Shelly as the "modern Prometheus," comes out as a jerk and a dork. He is grandiose and ineffective, with an IQ of a genius and the emotional intelligence of a door knob. He is the original socially crippled geek --- and not the harmless, lovable kind.

Putting aside the issue of when it's OK to play God and when it's not, the tragedy of Frankenstein's Creature is really caused by the unfortunate fact that he is ugly. If only Mr. Frankenstein has had even a rudimentary sense of aesthetics, the story would have come out totally different. Alas, like the stereotypical geek and male scientist, Frankenstein is blind to the importance of beauty. If only his Creature was pretty, he would have been adored and worshiped and assumed to be morally perfect by every human he encounters, rather than being persecuted and shunned and feared.

Therefore, in the end, the play confirms my second suspicion --- The central theme of Frankenstein, which is also the real reason that it resonates with our perception of the world, is that the fundamental difference between comedy and tragedy is merely cosmetic.
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Re: Here we go again

Post by simonsun » 2011-04-23 23:35

最后一句好吓人。 :mrgreen:

我坐第二排,仰着头两个小时脖子都要断了。把戏放到银幕上还是太怪了,本来必须的夸张,凑到眼前来看就有过头的感觉。而且还有近距离特写啊,高空俯视啊,等于额外加进了导播的判断,告诉你哪个镜头该怎么看。

另外幸亏BC穿了小内裤。不然后侧近距离特写整整5分钟,看得观众要昏古起⋯⋯ :BloodyK:
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Re: Here we go again

Post by roulette » 2011-04-24 6:30

《了不起的盖茨比》也要出新电影版了,据说是3D摄影机拍摄。
卡斯方面,黛西是Carey Mulligan(An Education的女主角),据说同时参与选角被她打败的还有Amanda Seyfried, Keira Knightley, Natalie Portman, Anne Hathaway, Jessica Alba, Scarlett Johansson等等。这串美人里面,我也觉得就是她最合适了,气质性灵,脸又很bitch,其他人的脸都太正直。
盖茨比是列奥纳多迪卡普里奥,演出《无间道风云》里面那种孤独又随时准备被辜负的调调就可以了。
演“我”的是托比马奎尔,是得找张正太脸,来配合盖茨比的人生教育。
很期待。

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Re: Here we go again

Post by Jun » 2011-04-24 8:00

新版 Gatsby 是 Baz Luhrmann 导演的,立刻让我失去了兴趣。

转播版 Frankenstein 里面的小裤衩实在让我很失望。剧情本来就让我有点失望,期待一点现代诠释的 twist 没有,然后连全裸也没有,实在是闷了一点。
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Re: Here we go again

Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2011-04-24 21:31

我要求不高,作为粉丝,有电影看那是一定要看的。
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