老式浪漫

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老式浪漫

Post by CAVA » 2012-02-12 10:54

昨天Times报的两大张插页红粉菲菲,一眼被美丽的插图吸引住,仔细看了看。在爱我就是送花送名牌送iPad的时代,还有报纸建议给他/她精心做顿晚餐,然后献上情诗一首,不知有多少人会被感动,又有多少人会笑它老土。

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总之我把插页Love poems everyone should know留下来仔仔细细翻了一遍,不用有人来念给我听,心情已经好起来。最喜欢W.H. Auden的这首:

O tell me the Truth about Love

Some say love’s a little boy,
And some say it’s a bird,
Some say it makes the world go round,
And some say that’s absurd,
And when I asked the man next-door,
Who looked as if he knew,
His wife got very cross indeed,
And said it wouldn’t do.

Does it look like a pair of pyjamas,
Or the ham in a temperance hotel?
Does its odour remind one of llamas,
Or has it a comforting smell?
Is it prickly to touch as a hedge is,
Or soft as eiderdown fluff?
Is it sharp or quite smooth at the edges?
O tell me the truth about love.

Our history books refer to it
In cryptic little notes,
It’s quite a common topic on
The Transatlantic boats;
I’ve found the subject mentioned in
Accounts of suicides,
And even seen it scribbled on
The backs of railway-guides.

Does it howl like a hungry Alsatian,
Or boom like a military band?
Could one give a first-rate imitation
On a saw or a Steinway Grand?
Is its singing at parties a riot?
Does it only like Classical stuff?
Will it stop when one wants to be quiet?
O tell me the truth about love.

I looked inside the summer-house;
It wasn’t over there:
I tried the Thames at Maidenhead,
And Brighton’s bracing air.
I don’t know what the blackbird sang,
Or what the tulip said;
But it wasn’t in the chicken-run,
Or underneath the bed.

Can it pull extraordinary faces?
Is it usually sick on a swing?
Does it spend all its time at the races,
or fiddling with pieces of string?
Has it views of its own about money?
Does it think Patriotism enough?
Are its stories vulgar but funny?
O tell me the truth about love.

When it comes, will it come without warning
Just as I’m picking my nose?
Will it knock on my door in the morning,
Or tread in the bus on my toes?
Will it come like a change in the weather?
Will its greeting be courteous or rough?
Will it alter my life altogether?
O tell me the truth about love.

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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-12 11:33

情人节最应该亲自晚餐,要出去吃饭不等这一天,外面实在太挤太烦人。

奉献一首我最喜欢的情诗,可惜原文不是英文,不押韵。

Neruda ‘I like you calm, as if you were absent’
XV From:’ Veinte poemas de amor’

I like you calm, as if you were absent,
and you hear me far-off, and my voice does not touch you.
It seems that your eyelids have taken to flying:
it seems that a kiss has sealed up your mouth.

Since all these things are filled with my spirit,
you come from things, filled with my spirit.
You appear as my soul, as the butterfly’s dreaming,
and you appear as Sadness’s word.

I like you calm, as if you were distant,
you are a moaning, a butterfly’s cooing.
You hear me far-off, my voice does not reach you.
Let me be calmed, then, calmed by your silence.

Let me commune, then, commune with your silence,
clear as a light, and pure as a ring.
You are like night, calmed, constellated.
Your silence is star-like, as distant, as true.

I like you calm, as if you were absent:
distant and saddened, as if you were dead.
One word at that moment, a smile, is sufficient.
And I thrill, then, I thrill: that it cannot be so.


聂鲁达 我喜欢你是寂静的
  
    我喜欢你是寂静的,仿佛你消失了一样。     
    你从远处聆听我,我的声音却无法触及你。     
    好像你的双眼已经飞离远去,     
    如同一个吻,封缄了你的嘴。        
    
    如同所有的事物充满了我的灵魂,     
    你从所有的事物中浮现,充满了我的灵魂。    
    你像我灵魂,一只梦的蝴蝶,     
    你如同忧郁这个字。          
    
    我喜欢你是寂静的,好像你已远去。     
    你听起来像在悲叹,一只如鸽悲鸣的蝴蝶。     
    你从远处听见我,我的声音无法企及你。     
    让我在你的沉默中安静无声。     
    
    并且让我借你的沉默与你说话,     
    你的沉默明亮如灯,简单如指环。     
    你就像黑夜,拥有寂静与群星。    
    你的沉默就是星星的沉默,遥远而明亮。     
    
    我喜欢你是寂静的,仿佛你消失了一样,     
    遥远且哀伤,仿佛你已经死了。     
    彼时,一个字,一个微笑,已经足够。     
    而我会觉得幸福,因那不是真的而觉得幸福。  
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Re: 老式浪漫

Post by CAVA » 2012-02-12 11:38

看小K喜欢的情诗就知道你很浪漫! :wavy:

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Post by Jun » 2012-02-12 14:15

不会写诗的人只好做顿饭。

巧克力和鲜花是不会写诗又不会做饭的人的出路。

Happy Valentine's Day! :heartpump: :heartpump:
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Post by putaopi » 2012-02-12 19:12

提前下班带外卖回家也可以算是浪漫的。 :mrgreen:

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Post by 豪情 » 2012-02-12 19:28

物以稀为贵.
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Post by tiffany » 2012-02-12 22:00

我没有一根浪漫骨头的觉得我真不知道什么样的姿势算是浪漫。
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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-12 23:01

我很少读诗,看完电影《邮差》之后很被里面的聂鲁达诗句打动,找《二十首情诗和一首绝望的歌》来读,非常喜欢,一直记得。
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Post by tiffany » 2012-02-12 23:05

我认真的说,我觉得不懂欣赏英文诗是我一个很大的遗憾。
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Post by silkworm » 2012-02-13 9:54

完全不懂欣赏英文诗的我,再次被W H Auden的诗打动。

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Post by CAVA » 2012-02-13 10:07

诗歌的浪漫光环在我这里已经褪色,内容有意思,读起来动听,就是好诗。WHA的这首很具中年人的豁达,聂鲁达的那首文艺唯美。

昨天看国内一电视台的节目,说情人节就是花钱节,默然。

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Post by tiffany » 2012-02-13 10:09

话说,咩节不是花钱节呢?
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Post by CAVA » 2012-02-13 10:14

五四青年节 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

今天去伦敦办事顺便逛了逛街,手提包控忍不住又买了一只包。一边找借口,反正明儿晚上也不出去挨宰。 :mrgreen:

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Post by tiffany » 2012-02-13 10:18

这么说:还有七一建党节,八一建军节 :mrgreen:
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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-13 10:40

我好象已经修炼到了随时都可以花钱不需要借口的地步--因为现在花钱欲望很不强烈。真是孔子说的老年人阶段:随心所欲而不逾矩。 :roll:
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Post by CAVA » 2012-02-13 10:44

我在杂志上看到东方快车2周豪华游收费每位6000还是8000镑的时候,找借口花钱的欲望就特别强烈 :mrgreen:

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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-13 10:51

N 等于几?
一直幻想坐豪华卧铺火车夜行,终于在泰国从清迈到曼谷坐上了,还算舒服,但是长久不坐长途火车忘了有股淡淡的柴油臭味,一上车就勾起了大学坐长途车从杭州去北京的痛苦回忆,顿时扫了兴致。以后也不想坐了。
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Post by CAVA » 2012-02-13 10:54

刚刚诚实地把第一饭特稀从西伯利亚火车游改成了东方快车。

西伯利亚火车游好象是3星期,经常下车访问景点,住住豪华旅馆什么的。

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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-13 11:01

我饭特稀包括有一个以前犹太老头老太参加过说很好的埃及古迹豪华游轮团,沿尼罗河,中间也要去陆地上,到很多一般旅游团不去的古迹和考古点,有专业考古学家带团,晚上就睡游轮赶路。那是十年前,好象是两周五千美金。我一直打算退休以后去。
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Post by Jun » 2012-02-13 11:04

Knowing wrote:我饭特稀包括有一个以前犹太老头老太参加过说很好的埃及古迹豪华游轮团,沿尼罗河,中间也要去陆地上,到很多一般旅游团不去的古迹和考古点,有专业考古学家带团,晚上就睡游轮赶路。那是十年前,好象是两周五千美金。我一直打算退休以后去。
I want this, too. To finance this type of tour for me, I plan to organize my own tour of figure skating competitions with commentary from me. :mrgreen:
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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-13 11:06

对那个团简直象阿婆小说里跳出来的,超级激发我的想象力 :mrgreen:
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Post by silkworm » 2012-02-13 11:08

我很煞风景地说:在公共交通工具上旁观过几次类似这种的团,觉得跟团员适合度是件很微妙的事儿。嗯,不过也许我老了,也就自动变成那种典型团员了。

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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-13 11:12

去比较专门的团,契合度高的机率比较大。
我在法南老在山路上被堵在德国自行车旅游团后面,都是一个大巴后面还拖一车皮自行车,上面坐着一堆面部表情特刚毅长手长脚浑身瘦肉一小堆一小堆每堆看上去都是一个核心家庭的德国游客。估计这种团。。。。参加的基本没有拖后腿的。。。倒找钱我也不去!
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Post by CAVA » 2012-02-13 11:24

德国人较起真来真是。。。最近跟瑞士人大打交道,发现他们比德国人还会抠细节!

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Post by Jun » 2012-02-13 11:31

You can always bring your own companion and avoid socializing with others in the tour.
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2012-02-13 11:39

咱们每十年一叹地又要组夕阳红了。 :mrgreen:
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Post by tiffany » 2012-02-13 11:40

这个不用10年了,频率,我是说。
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Post by 幻儿 » 2012-02-14 12:07

10 of the Greatest Kisses in Literature
http://flavorwire.com/259345/10-of-the- ... terature#1
我刚看了一遍这个。让我觉得最浪漫的还是《飘》里的吻(当年看中文版没注意过文笔,看来应该看一遍原文),最好玩的是<The Princess Bride>, 《了不起的盖茨比》那一吻看得我无比惆怅,<Lolita>那一幕恶心死我了--作者太太太厉害了吧!敢于以这么不讨喜的人物做主人公,以这么好的文笔写这么恶心的故事!

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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-14 13:15

CAVA wrote:
昨天看国内一电视台的节目,说情人节就是花钱节,默然。
哗,刚看到bloomberg 报道情人节美国人花了18比林,其中10比林是花在给配偶或者恋人的礼物上,59%准备庆祝Vday 的人平均花159美金。送了一个十块钱kindle灯的人感到很惭愧。 :twisted:
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Post by Elysees » 2012-02-14 13:48

Happy V-Day,诗我是不用想了,话说这几天听广播看微博,怎么情人节现在成了表白节了吗?纷纷鼓励大家在那一天说出心意是什么状况?
他爹今天出差,在我高压下周日和昨天都过了貌似半个情人节,忒惨烈,囧
我自横刀向天笑,笑完我就去睡觉。

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Post by 豪情 » 2012-02-14 17:49

偷偷说, 其实我最喜欢的是一小盆盆栽. 至今没有在V-DAY收到过. 只好自己买来送人.
现在美国的V-DAY就是小朋友的写卡节. 我们小朋友三岁的时候我被打了个措手不及, 现在已经轻车熟路了. 而且小朋友写熟了, 全家都有份, 而且做得越来越精致.
我和小K相反, 竞争的花钱项目越来越多, 以至于无论冲动花点啥钱都要过后找点借口.
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Post by Knowing » 2012-02-14 20:16

有娃和没娃的区别 :mrgreen:
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Post by Jun » 2012-02-14 23:44

很不浪漫的只有做饭没有写诗... :dog001:
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2012-02-15 0:22

大家都情人节快乐。 :party005:
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Post by Elysees » 2012-02-15 0:26

大家情人节快乐。
我早上跟英国那边开会,结束的时候跟伦敦的TCS说Happy Valentine's Day,人说,哇,你是今天第一个跟我说这句话的人,我太太都还没说呢。我吓得赶紧回想了一下是不是时差给算错了。
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Post by silkworm » 2012-02-15 13:39

我昨天收到娃给我写在红色心形纸片上的“诗”:
Roses are red
Violets are blue
I like you
You like me, too

我刚谢完她,她就坏笑着说,今天在学校看了一本书,叫Roses Are Pink, Your Feet Really Stink。

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Post by tiffany » 2012-02-15 13:42

阿土仔昨天一本正经说:sharing is caring。我问他share啥呀?人继续庄重的说:mommy and daddy.
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Post by 豪情 » 2012-02-15 13:56

:mrgreen:
我们新学的是"I don't care. I will put down your underwear." 从froggy来的.
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