你们的意思是说王子说话也不管用。国王发疯没人拦得住。唉,那就套中国老话说:父债子偿....笑嘻嘻 wrote:国王!王子!你要分清楚!
那个ws少年现在还活着没?
你们的意思是说王子说话也不管用。国王发疯没人拦得住。唉,那就套中国老话说:父债子偿....笑嘻嘻 wrote:国王!王子!你要分清楚!
nah, I'd rather find out from your gals by bits and pieces.Jun wrote:One thing is that Ned had to kill a friend Arthur Dayne at Tower of Joy, where Lyanna was kept hidden. Ned was (supposedly) in love with Dayne's sister Ashara at the time, and Ashara (supposedly) committed suicide after learning her brother's death at the hand of her lover.
I'm telling you, these are too complicated. A search on the wiki sites would be very helpful.
Ned 跟儿女的关系,一句话便暗示到。此后在无数的章节里渐渐印证。Catelyn found her husband beneath the weirwood, seated on a moss-covered stone. The greatsword Ice was across his lap, and he was cleaning the blade in those waters black as night. ... "Ned," she called softly.
He lifted his head to look at her. "Catelyn," he said. His voice was distant and formal. "Where are the children?"
He would always ask her that. "In the kitchen, arguing about the names for the wolf pups."
我几乎可以看见这个画面,画面中孤寂的背影。两人的举止又立刻对应了他们不同的背景:一个是土生北男,不怕冷;一个是南方女孩子,嫁过来十五年仍然不习惯。... Ned rolled off and climbed from her bed ... He crossed the room, pulled back the heavy tapistries, and threw open the high narrow windows one by one, letting the night air into the chamber.
The wind swirled around him as he stood facing the dark, naked and empty-handed. Catelyn pulled the furs to her chin and watched him. He looked somehow smaller and more vulnerable, like the youth she had wed in the sept at Riverrun, fifteen long years gone.
短短几句话,把三个人之间的微妙关系交代得清清楚楚。接下来一段继续交代 Ned 和 Robert 之间的关系。“Robert will never keep to one bed," Lyanna had told him at Winterfell, on the night long ago when their father had promised her hand to the young Lord of Storm's End. "I hear he had gotten a child on some girl in the Vale. Ned had held the babe in his arms; he could scarecely deny her, nor would he lie to his sister, but he had assured her that what Robert did before their betrothal was of no matter, that he was a good man and true who would love her with all his heart. Lyanna had only smiled. "Love is sweet, dearest Ned, but it cannot change a man's nature."
Ned 是个狼族北人,但是他的心非常非常软,感情一旦粘在谁的身上就割不断理还乱,温情泛滥。他的罪恶感和对狮家的憎恶,一大部分可追追溯到 Elia 母子三人惨死,目睹 Lannister 军队血洗 King's Landing 的状况。The girl had been so yong Ned had not dared to ask her age... (He) had touched the baby's fine dark hair. It flowed through his fingers like black silk.
"Tell him that when you see him, milord, as it ... as it please you. Tell him how beautiful she is."
"I will," Ned had promised her. That was his curse. Robert would swear undying love and forget them before evenfall, but Ned Stark kept his vows.
tywin 老婆是跟疯王有感情纠葛么?这点我始终没弄明白. 貌似是疯王单方面垂涎而已. tywin 没有任何对不起疯王的地方Tywin 老爷本来计划把 Cersei 嫁给 Rhaegar 的,因为他做 Hand 给 Aegon 国王治国二十年,国泰民安,最后却被主子背后捅了一刀 (这俩人的恩怨一言难尽)。
过去的事情谁知道,留在各人心中的记忆早已被各自的立场和愿望污染变形。但是,Tywin 老爷一直疑心 Tyrion 不是他的种,这是我们都知道的。Knowing wrote:tywin 老婆是跟疯王有感情纠葛么?这点我始终没弄明白. 貌似是疯王单方面垂涎而已. tywin 没有任何对不起疯王的地方
他们三个人各自继承了老爷的某些方面:Cersei 继承了老爷的极度骄傲、爱面子爱到病态、以及残忍不择手段;Jaime 继承了老爷的体格和战斗力,和骄傲;Tyrion 继承了老爷的智慧和决断力。Knowing wrote:Tyrion is more like Tywin than Cersie and Jaime added together!
Tywin 老爷的字典里没有 justice 这个字,只有“我”,“我家”,“荣耀”。"So what will you do, m'lord, now that you're the Hand of the King?" Shae asked him as he cupped that warm flesh.
"Something Cersei will never expect," Tyrion murmured softly against her slender neck. "I'll do ... justice."
很多这样的段落让我立刻在脑子里浮现出画面,不是电影中的那种画面,而是 comics 画书中的那种凝结了动感与冲突的 action 画面。Arya saw men guarding the fields more and more when they turned north again. Often they stood silently beside the road, given a cold eye to anyone who passed ... At one place, she spotted a man perched up in a dead tree, with a bow in his hand and a quiver hanging from the branch beside him. The moment he spied them, he notched an arrow to his bowstring, and never looked away until the last wagon was out of sight."
你这个一头坠入情网的死忠粉丝!现在你也承认书中文字是动漫效果了吧。我跟葡萄皮一直在唠叨这点。这也是我嫌电视剧不够魔幻的原因。我读书很大一个享受是咂摸文字,所以不喜欢听书,不着急后面情节。grrm象你说的写得广而全,但另一方面在不同方面不可能使用同一种文字的调子。这也是我抱怨的一个原因。每当作者换一个调子,我一口气憋住,就不介意歇会儿了。冰火中的场景都特别有画面感,每个人一边说话一边动作,又一边看到周围的动作,所以不仅是画面还是动态画面。仅从文字讲,我觉得最让我击节称赞的是大概最不起眼的一章:Sansa 去看以她爹名义开的锦标赛。一场接一场打斗,一招一式绝不重样,描写行云流水,一句不多一句不少,长短句错杂,简直有铁马金戈的声音透出来,又象古歌一样琅琅上口。很多这样的段落让我立刻在脑子里浮现出画面,不是电影中的那种画面,而是 comics 画书中的那种凝结了动感与冲突的 action 画面。
可是你不也是非要等到出完结尾才开看么?无底大坑啊,掉不进去倒还好一点,掉进去才纠结呢,等不到头啊,还很有可能烂尾啊。我们这些倒霉粉丝其实后悔还来不及。tiffany wrote:jun有你这样的fan么!话说我都恨不得说得全天下人都去看我show![]()
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tywin 虽然用凶残狡猾的手下和盟友,但是他同时能够控制他们。cersie 这点就完全不成,但她继承了老爷对家族的忠诚。他们三个人各自继承了老爷的某些方面:Cersei 继承了老爷的极度骄傲、爱面子爱到病态、以及残忍不择手段;Jaime 继承了老爷的体格和战斗力,和骄傲;Tyrion 继承了老爷的智慧和决断力。
但是,Tyrion 跟 Tywin 老爷也有根本性质的不同。Tywin 老爷手下最得力的战将全是最凶残最evil 最无人性之徒;他的盟友们也都是无信义无底线不择手段的一群。
是吗?真的吗?Knowing wrote:不过还好,现在我有很有平常心了。写不完就写不完吧,红楼梦也没写完。
可惜我不会画画,否则可以把脑子里的这一张漫画格给画出来。捂着脸尖叫的 Myrcella 在前景,背后左边是跪倒在地的 Arianne 公主,一匹马跑向远处,更后面的背景是一条胳膊和一只脑袋飞上天空,Areo Hotah 的长斧轮得正圆,白袍 Arys 的躯干尚未倒下,黄沙上鲜血四溅。The white knight raised his blade, too slowly. Hotah's longaxe took his right arm off at the shoulder, spun away spraying blood, and came flashing back again in a terrible two-handed slash that removed the head of Arys Oakheart and sent it spinning through the air. It landed amongst the reeds, and the Greenblood swallowed the red with a sloft splash.
Ariannne ... found herself on her hands and feet in the sand, shaking and sobbing and retching up her supper... Myrcella was on the ground, wailing, shaking, her pale face in her hands, blood streaming through her fingers ... Men were scrambling onto horses whilst others swarmed over her and her companions, but none of it made sense. She had fallen into a dream, some terrible red nightmare.
:第一条当然是 power,奴役与被奴役的本质和机制;第二条是 identity:Who am I? Theon, Arya, Sansa, 几个人的历程都跟 identity 主题有很强的关联。