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Post by tiffany » 2008-01-08 16:09

呃,最近被良人送去上班,乃有机会跟他一起听美国流行电台,他老人家开车时间渐长,对美国流行音乐比我知道的多多了,什么akon,什么pussy cat doll---- 所以对改组合一个选秀show还挺关心,去年演的时候还记得每集快结尾的时候探头过来看看结果-----都知道。
然后我老某天听到了一个什么吃食的广告,卖得什么不记得了,只记得广告词说:那不是你在流口水,而是你的味蕾流出来的喜悦的眼泪。我听了狂乐,且不论这个形容有多么的生理学不正确,可是他是多么的富余想象力啊。不由得感慨别拿豆包不当干粮,写广告词儿的作家也是作家。

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Post by icefire » 2008-01-08 16:20

这个比喻真逗 :lol:

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Post by putaopi » 2008-01-08 17:17

tiffany wrote:不由得感慨别拿豆包不当干粮,写广告词儿的作家也是作家。

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豆包就是干粮,这“喜悦的眼泪”很可能就是未来的名家。好像Kurt Vonnegut就在广告公司做过。

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Post by qinger » 2008-01-09 1:47

我最近养成了上班路上听中文电台的习惯。听中文电台,看中文电视(家里的电视新近才收到26台), 再加上上中文论坛。难怪英文水平下降得厉害。
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Post by CAVA » 2008-01-09 3:04

这两天美国大选的新闻铺天盖地,我也听了一小会儿。看来写演说词的人也是作家啊 :-D

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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 9:56

怎么不是作家,写字儿的都是作家。你以为政客还有工夫写自己的演说?他们光握手都握不过来。
听说JAY LENO 要写自己的独白被作家协会灭了么?
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Post by karen » 2008-01-09 10:07

昨晚听John Edward得了第三名后的演讲,老天,根本听不到他输了。 稿子里那个spin太玄乎了!
大家都在谈Hillary啥露出真情吸引了更多选民,我不大相信啊。
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Post by silkworm » 2008-01-09 10:10

早上听NPR转播BBC的新闻节目,听众来信环节世界各国人民都对BBC报道美国选情太多甚为愤慨。 :mrgreen:

希拉里哭了一鼻子,就算真情流露了。 :speechless002:

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Post by karen » 2008-01-09 10:21

没哭啊,顶多哽咽了下眼睛都没湿。这就引起那么大的反响? :shock: 大家都以为她是铁金刚吗。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVlwH7-05Fk
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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 10:27

本来就是,大家都以为她是刀枪不入的政治机器。
没准她流露了点感情赢得了不少女性选票。
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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 10:29

I can't listen to all the talking-heads on TV without screaming in frustration. What a bunch of tapeworms. People voted for Hillary Clinton because they want to vote for her -- but the idiot "experts" insist that her win was caused by her "choking up". They seem to have a very strange concept of cause-and-effect. I faint and faint.
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Post by silkworm » 2008-01-09 10:36

对了,听见采访一个专业是政治行为学的教授分析为什么exit poll显示OBAMA胜利,可实际结果却是CLINTON赢,说一般african american candidate的情况都是exit poll高于实际情况的。

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Post by karen » 2008-01-09 10:53

Yeah, those political pundits are pretty pathetic, they were all saying "choking up" would hurt her before the election.

It's also really difficult to watch her being "humanized". Some bimbo reporter was dispatched to interview her, asking her if she worries about her weight, her hair, and does she watch any reality shows just like ''the rest of us". It frustrates me to no end. This country is so populist, can't stand to vote for a woman who's smart and ambitious.
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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 10:54

Obama had a large lead in the pre-voting polls. It might have convinced many independents to choose to go over to the Republican camp and vote for John McCain instead. NH has traditionally been high in independents, and this year especially.

Who cares. The game is still early and the race is tight. All the more excitement for spectators. What fun is it if there is no competition?!
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Post by karen » 2008-01-09 10:59

I like McCain a lot. If McCain wins the nomination, I am not disincline to vote for him, even if he is Republican.
Obama is spewing "change change change", but I have serious doubt about him. He hasn't finished one term of Senate yet! Does he know how to bring about change? Talk is cheap.
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Post by karen » 2008-01-09 11:05

Actually, I take that back. McCain is pro-life and pro-capital punishment. Hmm... that sucks.
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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 11:06

It's a moot point. McCain will NEVER get the endorsement of the Republican establishment.

Virginia is also an open-primary state. A friend of mine keeps urging me to register ASAP so that I can vote for McCain in Feb.

Even though he "claims" to be pro-life and pro-capital punishment, I doubt he will make an active effort to sabotage Roe v Wade. He's just saying this to please the evangelical voters and the GOP establishment to get the nomination. But it's all in vain because his party does not trust him at all.
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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 11:08

I honestly don't care if Obama, Hilary or MaCain wins. Since I can't vote, the burden of making the decision is not on my shoulder, and I am just watching it as entertainment. In that sense I prefer Obama just because he is charming. But really, anyone is a big step up from what we have now so there is nothing to lose.
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Post by karen » 2008-01-09 11:14

But charming won't cut it at the White House. Besides, I am suspicious of anything that is stamped with Oprah's endorsement. But xiaoK is right that anything is better than what we have now.
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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 11:15

I am firmly in Hillary Clinton's camp because I believe she is a Machiavellian, stone-cold, ruthless, pragmatic, tough bitch who will get things done. Obama seems too academic, feel-good, and "soft" to me. You know how I feel about academics... :uhh:

She's a butt-kicking bad-ass, but a practical one who has learned to fake femininity if necessary. American people, especially Democrats, can't stomach a female bad-ass, but that's just what I want!
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Post by karen » 2008-01-09 11:23

I am firmly in Hillary Clinton's camp
:heartpump: :heartpump: :heartpump: Don't worry about her appeal to the "academics", she went to Wellesley afterall and did her time at the Ivies. I will certainly vote for her, no question about that.
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Post by dropby » 2008-01-09 12:16

Obama的变化之一不是号称当选后要禁止进口中国制造玩具? 我昏倒. 要是都是这种变化的话, 还是不变比较好. 我听他演讲最大感想就是全都是假大空啊.用台湾人的话说,没有牛肉.别老说要变要变,究竟怎么个变法啊?

某人看电视的最大感想就是Hilary比当初刚当总统夫人的时候看起来顺眼多了. 看来Hilary这些年没白装啊. 

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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 12:19

我听他演讲最大感想就是全都是假大空啊
No different from other candidates. Actually, the more specific you tell the public, the easier it is for your enemies to attack you specifically. First rule of politics -- be vague, be very vague, and lie if necessary. That's how campaigns work in democracy. That's what people want. 说多错多。 Honesty is duly punished.
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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 12:28

他是有好多挺不那个什么的政见。比如他的健康保险计划就是谁想啥时候加入就啥时候加入。这怎么行!不过反正我也没权利选举,懒得挨个看他们的政见细节。选举时候说的话反正也大半儿做不了数的。只要别搞个宗教狂上台我就满意了。
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Post by tiffany » 2008-01-09 12:35

中国制造的玩具是世界产量的60%还是70%,禁止了以后那么大玩具需求量他打算怎么满足?当然我也知道这些竞选演讲统统都是扯,越听9越觉得民主是扯。
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Post by silkworm » 2008-01-09 12:41

他后来是不是又找补了几句?说只禁止不合标准的玩具。

Huckabee赢了Iowa的第二天,我老板在实验室里大放厥词,“他能不带哈来路亚说完一句话吗?“一眼瞥见我们那个老家是阿拉巴马的baptist黑人姑娘低头不语,他才闭嘴。

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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 12:43

不管是谁的健康保险计划,都得增税,但是你只要一提这个税字就是政治自杀,没有人会投你的票。竞选非得胡扯不可,上了台再该干什么干什么。不胡扯的人绝对选不上。大家也都知道是胡扯,都是糊弄头脑简单的广大人们群众的,但是广大人们群众搞不清楚复杂的事儿和复杂的道理,不糊弄不行。这怪不到政客头上,还得怪人们。无论是哪一件事,如果不能一句口号概括,人们就迷糊了;一迷糊,you've lost them. Most issues, however, are complex and cannot be summarized in one sentence.
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Post by tiffany » 2008-01-09 12:45

that is why I say democracy is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy overrated
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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 12:48

Democracy is overrated, but dictatorship is much worse. Do you want to relinquish your power to a centralized, totalitarian regime run by the likes of Cheney and Rove? No more abortion. Mandatory school prayors. Taxation to fund Halliburton and ME wars. Disagree? Death row without appeal.
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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 12:55

我一点儿都不反对民主政治,只要人民跟我一条心。为什么他们就那么别扭呐? :headscratch:
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Post by CAVA » 2008-01-09 13:01

silkworm wrote:早上听NPR转播BBC的新闻节目,听众来信环节世界各国人民都对BBC报道美国选情太多甚为愤慨。 :mrgreen:
这个其实还算合理,因为事实证明什么人当美国总统对世界局势确有深远的影响。我愤慨的是明明只有半小时的时事新闻,现在动不动报道Paris Hilton和Britney Spears之流,说实在的,真对这种事情关心的人谁会看一本正经的BBC新闻,切。

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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 13:05

我一点儿都不反对民主政治,只要人民跟我一条心。为什么他们就那么别扭呐?
小K你太坏了. :mrgreen:
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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 13:11

因为事实证明什么人当美国总统对世界局势确有深远的影响
这的确是过去八年血的教训啊!!!以前我天真相信民主制度,以为谁当总统顶多是个税收的多点少点的问题,不至于太出格。过去的八年,真是一次又一次的被一小撮人能造成的损害之巨大震撼了! :f19: :f19: :f19:
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Post by dropby » 2008-01-09 13:15

tiffany wrote:that is why I say democracy is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy overrated
不早说了民主制度只不过是所有坏制度中比较不坏的制度么?好制度是什么?答案是没有.

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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 13:18

这不是民主制度出了错, 是CHECK-AND-BALANCE出错了. 本来行政有司法和立法制约不可能太出格, 而且联邦和州还有互动. 但是近年总统的权力而且联邦的权力实在太大了.
越战时期也是行政把持了所有的真实信息. 我最近读越战史, 和现在一模一样啊. 而疑惑的是这些年的竞选人都是深受越战影响的, 不是参过军,就是逃过兵役, 或者上街游行. 他们学到了什么?

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Post by tiffany » 2008-01-09 13:22

30年前的有钱人跟30年以后的有钱人想法是差不多的。
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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 13:25

PBS Frontline did a very illuminating program on Dick Cheney's motives for the current war -- Cheney's Law. Explains a lot. I recommend it. No, I URGE you to watch it.

http://pbs.gen.in/wgbh/pages/frontline/cheney/

It's absolutely terrifying to watch this program.

A few very powerful men were involved in the Ford administration during Vietnam War (none saw combat like McCain did) and have always believed that Ford made the mistake to withdraw from Vietnam. This time they were determined to "get it right." Psychologically, it was an exercise to prove that they "could have won the Vietnam War" if only they had control like they did this time.
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 13:37

小克老了好多了. 我很惆怅的说.
现在大众都向前看, 求新求变, 真是乐观啊. HILARY这点上吃了亏. 而且看样子女总统比黑总统阻力还大. 符合女性STEROTYPE呢男选民和多数女选民不信任这样的人能做总统, 不呢, 又觉得她不似真人. 职业女性任重道远. 为了这我也要支持她. 而且她参议员做的挺好.

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Post by tiffany » 2008-01-09 14:01

我还真是不喜欢hillary,因为她的立场随着广大人民群众的观点的变动而变动的也太明显了。
其实我秘密的希望布市长竞选乃至成功,他上台了,至少经济能给搞好。
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 14:18

我以为扭腰人对他颇多腹诽呢.
今年我没看到看的很顺眼的. 美国现在的问题, 谁上来一时半会也创造不了奇迹.少帮经济倒忙, 努力基本结构建设大概才有用, 但政客们只能关心当下的票和财团的钱, 谁敢啃硬骨头呢.

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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 14:24

I feel the opposite. Even Romney and Huckabee have their bright points. Anyone is better than what we have now. So far no frontrunner seems as insane as ... (except perhaps Giulianni, although he's fading quickly)
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Post by tiffany » 2008-01-09 14:25

我对他挺不满意的----就知道收钱敛财!可是他还有这点儿收钱敛财的好处,别人连这点儿好处都没有
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 14:28

其实2000年BUSH竞选的时候也扮成华府肮脏政治圈外清新的风. 而且他扮演MODERATE颇成功.

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Post by Jun » 2008-01-09 14:28

Also remember that Bush did not actually win the 2000 election...
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 14:30

那要看你相信谁的了. :wink:
GORE当时不也吃了大家喜欢新面孔清新的风的亏么.要是选了GORE, 唉. 现在看来败选不是他的个人损失倒是美国的损失.

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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 14:42

GORE 说他得了诺贝尔奖去白宫参加给桂冠得主的晚会,BUSH说:要是当初选上总统的是你,今天得奖的就....
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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 14:44

不是BUSH听说GORE得奖后第一公开反应是宣称炸药奖因此贬值么.

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Post by 豪情 » 2008-01-09 14:47

我认识的教会人士在2000年很忧心忡忡地认为美国在小克领导下走上了危险的道路, 需要拯救.
小克的8年是德先生赛先生的8年.

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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-01-09 14:53

我也支持希拉里。
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Post by Knowing » 2008-01-09 14:53

我恨小克。被抓了也不肯痛哭流涕的请求大家原谅他。搞的教会有机可趁,坑了GORE。最后还要乱PARDON 一把。知道美国人民头脑简单道德观念强也不将就着点。你下台了后面还有别人要竞选呢。
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