[八卦]麦姬张的新男友

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-13 10:09

洁本里第一段比较完整,因为还穿着呢,后两段就没影了。自然也没能竖立他的好形象,总之罔顾伴侣需求的SM是不对的,我大义凛然的说。可是人家花了大本钱当然不是为了在床上无私奉献。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-13 10:20

第一次那什么的时候他一个大子儿都没出啊。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-13 10:23

王佳芝可完全是一幅把他当潜力股培养的架势,又不是文学青年谈恋爱不能讲钱。

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Post by karen » 2008-03-13 10:30

Tony Leung不怎么帅啊。 他就是眼神很温柔,电影里脸部表情有看头。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-13 10:48

我觉得Tony梁有法国味儿。法国电影里好多这种复杂阴柔会放电的男影星。美国电影里连gay都比别处阳刚些。当然以上是stereotype。

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Post by simonsun » 2008-03-14 1:51

火星狗 wrote:洁本里第一段比较完整,因为还穿着呢,后两段就没影了。自然也没能竖立他的好形象,总之罔顾伴侣需求的SM是不对的,我大义凛然的说。可是人家花了大本钱当然不是为了在床上无私奉献。
这话说的……有S有M才叫SM嘛。既然都有,又怎么可以说是罔顾伴侣需求呢? :evil:
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-14 9:42

这种学术精神一定要 :worthy: 一下。特此更正,罔顾伴侣需求的S。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-14 10:05

关键在于罔顾伴侣需求。就是罔顾伴侣需求的M也不行啊。对方就是跪在地上让我用小皮鞭抽,大马靴踢,我还嫌费劲呢。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-14 10:12

你们抠字眼的劲头真像给我改paper的老板……

那就再严肃的更正一下吧,罔顾伴侣需求的落了单的S或者M

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Post by 幻儿 » 2008-03-14 11:40

从maggie和她男友到“罔顾伴侣需求的落了单的S或者M”,要是直接看最后一贴,还以为她俩喜欢玩这个呢。 :wicked:

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Post by socket » 2008-03-14 14:02

亦舒同学的小说十个男主角八个是建筑师

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Post by simonsun » 2008-03-14 14:03

socket wrote:亦舒同学的小说十个男主角八个是建筑师
有没有物理学家的?
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-03-14 14:06

不如你去读一下,然后写个读书报告?
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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-14 14:09

念物理的男生倒扣四十分。 :f22: :f22: :f22:
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Post by simonsun » 2008-03-14 14:11

Knowing wrote:念物理的男生倒扣四十分。 :f22: :f22: :f22:
还好老子基本分高。闷哼一声…… :shock:
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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-14 14:15

经常在妇女网站出没再倒扣四十五分。 :mrgreen:
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Post by simonsun » 2008-03-14 14:27

:littleWhite2: :littleWhite2: :littleWhite2:
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Post by socket » 2008-03-14 14:29

美剧里面说一个人是phd了
周围的人立马鸡皮疙瘩就起来了

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-14 14:38

美剧里面说一个人是phd了
周围的人立马鸡皮疙瘩就起来了
不会吧? :f20: 看到鬼也不过就这效果

我今天早上看到一个loli妹妹给偶像打分了。大概是这样:
侧面,满分!身材,满分!气质,满分!白衬衫,啊啊啊,我可不可以打150分?!

相比之下中年妇女打分真没气势。 :f28:

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Post by socket » 2008-03-14 14:42

气质这个东西,是要修炼的
要是学校里有这么课,我肯定就去选了
这么多年
肯定有的赚啊

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-14 14:52

还是隆胸又快又管用。气质无所谓的。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-14 14:54

在夸男偶像呢,怎么隆啊?

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-14 14:58

男人也可以隆的,现在。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-14 15:01

市场需求不够大……

另外我觉得气质很重要。两个胸部一样大,我肯定捡顺眼的那一个 :whistling:

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-14 15:05

哦,如果两个胸一样大,我就挑做建筑师的那个。
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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-14 15:08

我改变主意了,我要挑有钱的那个。

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Post by socket » 2008-03-14 15:25

肌肉男不好使
斯瓦辛格现在都不好意思出去游泳了
一身的皮松的不能看
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冷冻精子也是精子

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Post by stracciatella » 2008-03-14 20:23

你们太搞了,笑死我了 :bowling:

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Post by Jun » 2008-03-15 6:39

simonsun wrote:
Knowing wrote:念物理的男生倒扣四十分。 :f22: :f22: :f22:
还好老子基本分高。闷哼一声…… :shock:
What do you care about what turns women on?

Say, Comrade Sun, what kind of men do you like?

(Everyone knows what I like by now.) ;)


Comrade Mars is right --- Money speaks louder than most qualities, but is not engouh as the only quality for some (relatively young and still good-looking) women.
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Post by simonsun » 2008-03-15 14:18

Jun wrote:What do you care about what turns women on?
One simple and perhaps most important assurance of a guy's masculinity is his attraction for the girls, i.e. his healthy, strong body, his mental toughness and courage, his ability to lead, to help, to protect, to entertain... I know this sounds cheesy and totally male-chauvinism but even most gay guys cannot help it... They tend to act more "masculine" around girls and see their charm for girls as a proof that they are indeed attractive-- although they might not be that aggressive like straight guys after all.

I'm just giving a gay guy's point of view. Pardon me for the cavalier attitude if there's any. I do care. :mrgreen:
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Post by simonsun » 2008-03-15 14:22

Knowing wrote:哦,如果两个胸一样大,我就挑做建筑师的那个。
哦,如果一个是大胸的物理学家,一个是猥琐的建筑师呢?这个问题好像有点困难? :bowling:
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Post by Jun » 2008-03-15 14:46

One simple and perhaps most important assurance of a guy's masculinity is his attraction for the girls
Thank you for clarifying an important confusion that I've had for a long time! I think you meant "his attractiveness to women." That mades a huge chunk of sense. A man's position in the social hierarchy is defined by how competitively strong he is, and obviously his sexual power over women is a part of it. A similar measurement is how desirable his mate is --- how beautiful the girl on his arm is and how much he is other men's envy. It is a key understanding that I didn't get until you explained it. Very nice, comrade.

Of course, similar competition and hierarchy exist among women -- the more desirable one is to men, the more respected, admired, and envied she is. Same phenomenon.

Another hypothesis that I've been toying with is that the underlying mechanism of male homosexuality, to a less than all-out degree, contributes to a man's sexual attractiveness to women. Women do not go for all testosterone machoness, but a blend of "soft" and "hard" qualities. I almost believe that some of the genetic "soft" qualities enhance a man's mating success, and only when these qualities go over a certain level that he becomes more attracted to men than to women.
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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-15 17:37

simonsun wrote: 哦,如果一个是大胸的物理学家,一个是猥琐的建筑师呢?这个问题好像有点困难? :bowling:
那我就素着。 :f28: 物理学家就算大胸也经常。。。想到爱因斯坦和杨振宁,我就什么胃口都没有了。。建筑师嘛,我立马想起的就是brad pitt. :mrgreen:
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Post by simonsun » 2008-03-16 2:19

Jun wrote:
One simple and perhaps most important assurance of a guy's masculinity is his attraction for the girls
Thank you for clarifying an important confusion that I've had for a long time! I think you meant "his attractiveness to women." That mades a huge chunk of sense. A man's position in the social hierarchy is defined by how competitively strong he is, and obviously his sexual power over women is a part of it. A similar measurement is how desirable his mate is --- how beautiful the girl on his arm is and how much he is other men's envy. It is a key understanding that I didn't get until you explained it. Very nice, comrade.

Of course, similar competition and hierarchy exist among women -- the more desirable one is to men, the more respected, admired, and envied she is. Same phenomenon.

Another hypothesis that I've been toying with is that the underlying mechanism of male homosexuality, to a less than all-out degree, contributes to a man's sexual attractiveness to women. Women do not go for all testosterone machoness, but a blend of "soft" and "hard" qualities. I almost believe that some of the genetic "soft" qualities enhance a man's mating success, and only when these qualities go over a certain level that he becomes more attracted to men than to women.
That is exactly what I meant. Sorry for my poor English! :mrgreen:

Your other point is also spot on. At least I totally agree with it.
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Post by karen » 2008-03-17 9:56

Wow, this is totally new to me! You are saying that even when a man only fancies other men, even when he has zero sexual interests in women, he still wants to be perceived as attractive to women because that reflects upon his desirability? Hmm... I guess that makes sense. Being deemed desirable by the opposite sex is universally sought-after, like being pretty and being rich. It's always good, no matter what you intend to do in life.
Another hypothesis that I've been toying with is that the underlying mechanism of male homosexuality, to a less than all-out degree, contributes to a man's sexual attractiveness to women. Women do not go for all testosterone machoness, but a blend of "soft" and "hard" qualities. I almost believe that some of the genetic "soft" qualities enhance a man's mating success,
There is something confusing here. What is the "underlying mechanism of male homosexuality"? By "soft" do you mean sensitivity? And are you equating sensitivity with homosexuality? :headscratch:
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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-17 10:03

Uhh? Why is that so new? Don't lot s of women do the same thing? Even when they have zero sexual interests in some men they want to be perceived as attractive because that reflects upon their desirability?
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Post by karen » 2008-03-17 10:12

Yeah, but I didn't know it's so systematic. Up till now I thought this is a trait of insecure women looking a confidence boost, but apparently it's more than that. It's more a social pecking order kinda thing.
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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-17 10:28

I think it is general. Even secure and confident people enjoy the attention, just they may not go all the way out to seek it.
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-03-17 12:01

Yet, they may not go all the way out to seek it.... I like this.
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Post by putaopi » 2008-03-17 13:26

有的直女人被弯女人赞赏,也会开心自己有魅力吧?

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Post by 火星狗 » 2008-03-17 13:46

有的直女人被弯女人赞赏,也会开心自己有魅力吧?
就算夸你的是大妈大爷小baby,也一样会很开心吧? :-D
想到爱因斯坦和杨振宁,我就什么胃口都没有了。。建筑师嘛,我立马想起的就是brad pitt.
不公平,拿老头子和年轻人比。至少要拿pitt的爹和老物理学家们,才有可比性吧。

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Post by Jun » 2008-03-17 17:54

There is something confusing here. What is the "underlying mechanism of male homosexuality"? By "soft" do you mean sensitivity? And are you equating sensitivity with homosexuality?
我的0.8分钱的理论是:假设人有许多个有正面功能和作用的基因,各自能让男人更sensitive,加强他们的mind-reading skills和empathy,增加文艺方面的倾向和能力,语言表达能力增强,同时aggression 降低。假设有二十个这样的基因,有效果的状态是on。如果一个人的所有这些基因都是off,他就是典型的不解风情男,直通通的clueless。如果一个男人这些基因里有一些是turned on,一些是 off,他的mating advantage 会提高,他对女性的吸引力,或者身价,会上升。但是如果二十个基因里有十八九个都是on,那么他就会对女性失去兴趣,而被男性吸引。这里面有一个continuum。感性,文艺,敏感,但是喜欢女性的,例如Billy Bob Thornton,James Dean,也是有的。这也能解释为什么弯男里有一个continuum,就是有些人不是绝对对女性没有兴趣,真遇到情投意合的也可以糊弄着过。但是另一些人就是Kinsey 所指的+6弯男。

这些基因拆开来看,都是对传宗接代有好处的,所以它们都能在长期的生存竞争里保存下来,而纯野人男并不最受欢迎。所以弯男也一直存在而不会被淘汰。

注意,这完全是我的猜想,没有科学根据的哈。

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Post by Knowing » 2008-03-17 18:04

你这是典型儿建立在cliche 上的理论。感性,文艺,敏感的直男海了去。只要再加个形容词“自私”,大家马上可以举出无穷多例子--中国历史上的酸文人不都那样吗,勾搭了小姐,吃饱了妓女的软饭,翻脸不认人,然后酸不唧唧多愁善感的写好多诗文自我欣赏。不解风情直通通clueless 的弯男,秃头邋遢胖弯男,秃头整洁胖弯男,都挺多的。风骚娇媚女性化但是不敏感不体贴的弯男我也见过。林子大了什么鸟都有。

我觉的弯人在社会上的exposure 不均匀,文艺圈对这些事宽松,所以文艺弯男的声音响。就象留学生里WSN 话多声大,所以显的咱海外学子都特猥琐特变态。。。
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Post by karen » 2008-03-17 18:10

OMG! Jun, you still find him attractive in this getup? :mrgreen:
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Post by Jun » 2008-03-17 18:13

我不认识历史文人。我只认识一些现代男人,包括敏感体贴的直男。前面不是说了吗?如果只有某些性质,但缺少一些关键的配合基因,就不会是弯的呀。就好像很多有精神分裂症的人的直系亲属,也有某些共同的基因,而且有些跟schizophrenia有关联的基因现在有迹象表明跟创造力和想象力有关系。如果你只有A+B+C,而你的亲属正好是A+B+D,那么可能你是举世闻名的艺术家,而他是精神分裂症患者。如果一个人是A+S+C+L, 另一个人是A+S+C+M+N,那么前者可能是甜言蜜语而文艺而直的,后者可能是甜言蜜语而文艺而弯的。

文艺界里弯男多于大众中的比例,这是不争的事实。

Isn't he adorable? :love011:

昨晚看到第一第二集,挺好看的,Giamatti 和 Laura Linney 在一起很有化学作用,让我想找原著来读一读。这张剧照我觉得特别温柔,比张曼玉和德国建筑师那张浪漫多了,好看多了。
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Post by karen » 2008-03-17 18:20

我只能很佩服得说你对偶像崇拜很坚贞。 :mrgreen:
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-03-17 18:27

我也觉得Jun 你这个是,那个,,,咳咳咳,跟直女对弯男有偏见的幻想,咳咳咳,相关。
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Post by Jun » 2008-03-17 18:30

HBO's new miniseries "John Adams."
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Post by 笑嘻嘻 » 2008-03-17 18:53

尤其是,如果真给一个直女像你形容的那样的又敏感又能mind-reading 的直男。该直女马上会直接抱怨该直男不够有男人气质。
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Post by Elysees » 2008-03-17 18:57

Jun wrote:HBO's new miniseries "John Adams."
奥,对,那天我看到这个片子的预告片,我心里还想了一下,这难道是Jun Cast出来的。 :party003:
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